[SpaceMonkey]

I'm planning a 16 man T10,000 tourney at the end of next month. Blinds will start at 25-50 and increase every 45 minutes. Antes will start at level 5. (125 buy in; pay top 5: 800/475/325/225/175)
I'll also have 10 minute breaks every three rounds, and a 45 minute dinner break after level 7 (coinciding with the green chip race off).

We'll start at 1pm on Saturday, and I'd like to play down to the final five, and then stop for the night and restart at 2pm Sunday. Is this possible/realistic?

I'm guessing the event will last through roughly round 17. That's about 14 hours including all the breaks. I would really prefer not to have people come back the next day if they're not in the money. I just don't know if there's a way to roughly estimate when we'd get down to the top 5.

I'll post the entire blind schedule I'm using if it'll help, but it's just the Foxwoods NEPC main event schedule.

[TenPercenter]

Originally Posted by SpaceMonkey

I'm planning a 16 man T10,000 tourney at the end of next month. Blinds will start at 25-50 and increase every 45 minutes. Antes will start at level 5. (125 buy in; pay top 5: 800/475/325/225/175)
I'll also have 10 minute breaks every three rounds, and a 45 minute dinner break after level 7 (coinciding with the green chip race off).

We'll start at 1pm on Saturday, and I'd like to play down to the final five, and then stop for the night and restart at 2pm Sunday. Is this possible/realistic?

I'm guessing the event will last through roughly round 17. That's about 14 hours including all the breaks. I would really prefer not to have people come back the next day if they're not in the money. I just don't know if there's a way to roughly estimate when we'd get down to the top 5.

I'll post the entire blind schedule I'm using if it'll help, but it's just the Foxwoods NEPC main event schedule.

Can't really say without knowing your blind changes (not just the time). If you doubled them every 45 minutes, I'd say this will last 6-7 hours with the break.

[SpaceMonkey]

Right:

45 minute levels
10 minute breaks
60 minute dinner break

Starting at 12pm

25-50
50-100
75-150

Break

100-200
100-200 (25)
150-300 (50)

Break

200-400 (50)
300-600 (75)

Color up $25/ Dinner


400-800 (100)
600-1200 (200)

Break

800-1600 (200)
1000-2000 (300)

End of Day 1 - 10:30pm
Color up $100

Day 2 begins @ 2pm

1500-3000 (500)
2000-4000 (500)
2500-5000 (500)

Color up $500 / Break

3000-6000 (1000) Tourney should end in next 2 levels
4000-8000 (1000)
5000-10000 (1000)

Break

6000-12000 (2000)
8000-16000 (2000)

[ky70]

I may be way off (and this could always change based on all-in confrontations) but that looks like a 10+ hour tourney. The blind schedule seems too relaxed (starting with 200 big bets and having 45 minutes inbetween blinds) for 16 players...but I'm far from an expert on multi-table tourneys

[smoore]

I predict here (or the level after it):

4000-8000 (1000)

My reasoning:
10,000 * 16 ppl = 160,000
160,000 * 10% = 16,000
--and--
4000+8000+(2*1000) = 14,000

[SpaceMonkey]

Originally Posted by ky70

I may be way off (and this could always change based on all-in confrontations) but that looks like a 10+ hour tourney. The blind schedule seems too relaxed (starting with 200 big bets and having 45 minutes inbetween blinds) for 16 players...but I'm far from an expert on multi-table tourneys

Nope, you're right it's both a 10-13 hour tournament, and very relaxed. That's exactly what I'm trying to achieve. We typically play 3 1 table T2000 tournaments every other week, culminating in a Tournament of Champions event I'll post about later.

I wanted something different that will showcase people's skills and patience (or lackthereof) more, in WSOP/WPT structure.

Originally Posted by smoore

I predict here (or the level after it):

4000-8000 (1000)

My reasoning:
10,000 * 16 ppl = 160,000
160,000 * 10% = 16,000
--and--
4000+8000+(2*1000) = 14,000

Yup, I found that formula too, and figure it will end at that level (16) or level 17.

Based on starting at 1pm, and my 10 minute breaks plus 45 minutes for dinner, that puts round 16 starting at 1:50am. I'd rather break at 11pm or 12am and finish the next day, but again only want the final five to have to come back.

Do you think appling that formula for 11 ppl would give a decent estimate for when we'd be down to the final five? That comes out to be level 15:
3000-6000 (1000). Just one level before the estimated end of the entire tournament.

Do you all think maybe stopping at a certain time/level regardless of players remaining is a better idea? Maybe day two can have longer blinds of 1 hour rather than 45 minutes.

[smoore]

I'd say, "We're playing down to the final five *or* until <time to go to bed here>, whichever comes first."

[SpaceMonkey]

Originally Posted by smoore

I'd say, "We're playing down to the final five *or* until <time to go to bed here>, whichever comes first."

That's a good point, and more realistic too. I'll probably stop it at midnight, so they'll be roughly three levels left to play on day 2.

I suppose I can come up with boobie prizes for those who have to come back but finish OOTM. Like Cloutier's book (rather than returning it to BN) and the Howard Lederer Tells All DVD I have.

[whitepotatoe]

Your short stack will probably have at most 10K-12K in chips when its down to 6 players. At the 2000/4000 level it will cost him an average of 1500 per hand, and one orbit of folding will cost 9000, and with 3xBB or less he will be in push mode. If he doubles up, someone else will be in push mode. You will definitely be down to five at the end of the 2K/4K level. I would stop the tourney when it gets down to five. IMO, this will probably occur in the 1500/3K level. But is also kind of likely to happen in the 1K/2K level, which I would finish even if it was down to 5 or less (just to make it to the break and color up).

You might want to make the first level 30 minutes and make both of the 100/200 levels 30 minutes so that its 1 hour total of 100/200 instead of 1.5 hours. This would cut 45 minutes and assure that your done by 12:10 am.

[SpaceMonkey]

Thanks whitepotatoe. That really helps.

I actually had to make a couple modifications due to scheduling concerns. Three of the players are running a road race that Sunday morning, so I'm going to end day 1 at 10:15pm. I'm going to bump the starting time to 12pm, which still allows us to end day 1 at the 1000-2000 (300) level, and get all the blacks off the table for day 2.

If we're lucky, either we'll already be down to five, or the three players in that road race will have been eliminated so we could then play one more level and be sure to get down to five.

I also lowered some of the beginning antes and added a 2500-5000 level for day 2. Looks like the second day will be about 3-4 hours, which seems good. I put the changes in green up above.

More comments about the blind schedule or anything else are still welcome.