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06-21-2012, 04:17 AM
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Bounty Only Tourney
Headstone started a recent thread concerning a progressive bounty tourney which got me thinking about a progressive bounties only tourney.
The more I thought about it, the more I liked it. Happy to share it all with you here and welcome any feedback.
The basic concept is there are no prizes for placement, only for knockouts which get higher as the tourney progresses.
Should make for some interesting play and might even get me out of my hard rock shell during the early rounds?
Attached is a pdf (pbot20.pdf (64.5 KB)) with the basic structure I plan to try out with the local crew this weekend. Would have preferred to post it here in plain view but don't wanna code tables in this editor at this hour ... lol
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06-21-2012, 06:06 AM
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Re: Bounty Only Tourney
So if (10 player), the first person eliminated rebuys then the bounty for 10th place becomes $20 & th ebounty for 9th remains at $5? Seems a bit off to me. & is the game theoretically endless as it's possible to keep rebuying until 5th place gets knocked out and choses not to rebuy?
I like the idea but unless I'm reading it wrong (and there's a good chance I am) it still needs some work imo.
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06-21-2012, 12:33 PM
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Re: Bounty Only Tourney
Yes you're reading it right and it is a little off but so are the players I have to deal with ... lol, e.g lucky gamblers who enjoy sucking out. Luck remains my enemy and time my friend.
In theory it could last forever if the players were the federal reserve, but with the guys/gals I play with about a third are good for 2 or 3 rebuys, another third for 1 rebuy, and final third never rebuys. Our $20 tourneys' prize pools usually approach and sometimes exceed $400 with 8-10 players.
I'd consider any rebuy a bonus knock out round when it exceeds the next bounty prize. In this situation, the early rebuy will likely increase the action on the table and encourage additional rebuys. I don't think it will be a problem. I rarely rebuy but love when others do.
I'll give it a run this weekend and post summary of how it turns out, if they'll let me, that is to say if they have restored faith in me after a disastrous ante only tourney experiment.
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06-21-2012, 01:36 PM
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Re: Bounty Only Tourney
Cool idea, but I never know how many players I will have until just before game time. Might work for a stand alone event for my guys.
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06-21-2012, 02:03 PM
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Re: Bounty Only Tourney
@headstone: check the attached pdf for prize table for $20 buyin/rebuy 5 to 10 player tourney which could be adopted to your particular group, although in a two table tourney, problem could arise if two folks on different tables get knocked at the same time.
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06-21-2012, 04:42 PM
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Re: Bounty Only Tourney
A simple way to solve that is the smaller stack to get knocked out is the first one out.
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06-22-2012, 03:07 PM
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Re: Bounty Only Tourney
Another way to make it "just work" would be to remove the progressive pay-out component. If you knock someone out you get their buy-in. If they re-buy then they're in play and the prize pool has another buy-in. The "progressive" factor then is not about surviving, it's about knocking people out, taking their buy-in and their chips, then using those chips to knock-out the next, and the next, and the next. It will reward early and extreme aggression and could make for some crazy-fun play.
Alternately, you could do something simple like take some money from the first 4 knock-outs and add it to the last 4, so the progression is sort of "U" shaped. Oh that does look like your chart!
n= number of players
b= buy-in
1st KO = 0
2nd KO = b/4
3rd KO = b/4
4th KO = b/2
5th KO = b
(no more rebuys) all KO's pay b
last -4 KO = b
last -3 KO = b + b/4
last -2 KO = b + b/4
last -1 KO = b + b/2
last KO = all the rest, should be 3b-ish because they get their own buy-in back as well.
~Zen
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06-24-2012, 08:39 PM
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Re: Bounty Only Tourney
I love the bounties only idea!
To keep it simple I would probably nix the progressive aspect and allow one rebuy up to the 4th level or so to hopefully encourage early action.
Keep the levels short and play multiple tournaments each night
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