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04-23-2008, 02:17 AM
|  | World Series Final Table | | Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: NC
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Chips: 1,989 | | | Does anyone do this in their tourneys? I am thinking of running this as a 10-player T10,000 or possibly 20-player T5000.
20 MINUTE LEVELS
25-50
50-100
100-200
BREAK
100-200-25
200-400-50
300-600-75
BREAK, COLOR UP 25 CHIPS, & BEGIN 30 MINUTE LEVELS
400-800-100
500-1000-100
BREAK
600-1200-200
800-1600-200
BREAK
1000-2000-300
1500-3000-400
BREAK, COLOR UP 100 CHIPS
2000-4000-500
3000-6000-500
I am thinking with 100,000 chips (max) in play at the end it is unlikely it could go to 3k-6k-500 or even 2k-4k-500. I am thinking 5.5 hours with the breaks. Thoughts? | 
04-23-2008, 02:40 AM
|  | ChipTalk.net Article Writer | | Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Tucson, AZ Age: 32
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Chips: 1,694 | | | Re: Does anyone do this in their tourneys? Any particular reason why you want the early rounds shorter than the later ones?
I can see doing something like this if you specifically want to thin down an otherwise large group early on (like weeding out the poorest, laggiest players in a donkament to make more time for the more sound players at the latter stages). Otherwise, you are going to put a lot of time pressure early on (not so much stack pressure with T10k starting stacks).
I'm just not entirely sure why you would go this way. Maybe I'm missing something. | 
04-23-2008, 10:16 AM
|  | World Series Final Table | | Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: NC
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Chips: 1,989 | | | Re: Does anyone do this in their tourneys? More play in the later rounds when it is more important to have it. Most structures do the opposite. | 
04-23-2008, 10:20 AM
|  | Poker Nerd (and Admin) | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: bottom pair and a flush draw Age: 35
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Chips: 17,154 | | | Re: Does anyone do this in their tourneys? agree with kyle here.
some do the opposite, with the rational that it's a friendly game, keep players in as long as possible, et cetera. i'd argue that the early rounds are the equivalent of the nba's first half: they really don't matter at all. the last 6 or 7 rounds are where anything that matters happens, and it makes sense to give more room there. | 
04-23-2008, 11:34 AM
|  | LNPT Playa! | | Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: trying to figure out NL25 Age: 35
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Chips: 13,854 | | | Re: Does anyone do this in their tourneys? I've never played in a tourney with that blind structure but it makes a lot of sense. I will try to introduce it to the people I play with - thanks for the idea Kyle
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04-23-2008, 11:51 AM
|  | ChipTalk Tournament Advisor | | Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: NJ
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Chips: 12,124 | | | Re: Does anyone do this in their tourneys? I would rather have longer levels in the beginning so there is more play with the lower blinds. This allows both good players to use more skill with deeper stacks and not so good players to not bust as fast.
By the time you get to those higher levels, you'll have less people being dealt in and hands will take less time.
I'd rather have 12-15 hands dealt in 30 minutes instead of having 8-10 hands in 20 minutes in the beginning
Later on you're going to have less people dealt in and get more hands dealt anyway.
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Last edited by scottwire : 04-23-2008 at 02:41 PM.
Reason: meant more play lower blinds, not higher - first line
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04-23-2008, 12:22 PM
|  | Poker Nerd (and Admin) | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: bottom pair and a flush draw Age: 35
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Chips: 17,154 | | | Re: Does anyone do this in their tourneys? Quote:
Originally Posted by scottwire I would rather have longer levels in the beginning so there is more play with the higher blinds. This allows both good players to use more skill with deeper stacks and not so good players to not bust as fast.
By the time you get to those higher levels, you'll have less people being dealt in and hands will take less time.
I'd rather have 12-15 hands dealt in 30 minutes instead of having 8-10 hands in 20 minutes in the beginning
Later on you're going to have less people dealt in and get more hands dealt anyway. | agree and disagree. mostly i think bad players get exploited much worse in shortstack/semi-shortstack situations than they do in deep situations. they just don't know what to do with 15-20bb.
in deep stack situations, i find it's harder to bluff than it should be (calling stations), and of course bad players will pay off way too well with tptk and deep stacks, but those situations don't come up all that often. | 
04-23-2008, 07:46 PM
|  | Faux Clay Nation | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: FAUX CLAY NATION Age: 3
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Chips: 1,556 | | | Re: Does anyone do this in their tourneys? I had thought about that idea before, but then never followed through with it. I really would like longer levels at the end especially if I am playing still!!
Now I know I would get some flack from people mainly due to the fact that some nights I run two games, and this would obviously hold up the second game from starting. | 
04-24-2008, 01:46 PM
|  | Short Stack | | Join Date: Aug 2007
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Chips: 22 | | | Re: Does anyone do this in their tourneys? I do something like this almost exclusively now. Over the past 5-6 years I have played with almost every variation of structure my brain could envision and for the past year or so we start with 15 minute levels, go to 20 minutes after the break and gradually go to 30 minute levels. The players who know how to play really appreciate having a lot of play at the end of the tourney, so it doesn't become an "All-In" fest when anyone can get lucky a couple of times and win.
For my Little League WSOP, I used to go 1 hour levels for the first day and reduce them to 30 minutes for day two. After about 5 hours on day 2, they go down to 15 minute levels. There was TONS of play in that tourney, but the end game still was a crap shoot. Now we start off with 30 minute levels and work our way up to hour levels at the end of day two. Everyone (except the crap shooters) love this way of playing.
The only real downside is that once you get locked in to this structure, it gets hard to wrap up a tourney that is running into the wee morning hours.
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