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Bounty problem

I had an interesting situation come up on a bounty and I'm not sure what the best way to play it was.

Had a poker game tonight where everyone bought in with a $5 bounty. Had one hand where one of the player went all in and two other players called. The two players that called split the pot. How would you decide who gets the bounty?
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I had an interesting situation come up on a bounty and I'm not sure what the best way to play it was.

Had a poker game tonight where everyone bought in with a $5 bounty. Had one hand where one of the player went all in and two other players called. The two players that called split the pot. How would you decide who gets the bounty?

guy with the higher amount of chips before the hand was dealt?

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guy with the higher amount of chips before the hand was dealt?

I don't know... I think the bounty should go to the winner of the pot, period. Problem is that there were two winners... exactly the same hand. IIRC it was 2 pair and a kicker...

Not a situation I had ever thought of...
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Re: Bounty problem

Split the bounty. Look at it as part of the pot.
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Split the bounty. Look at it as part of the pot.

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Re: Bounty problem

The bounty belongs to the person with the highest hand that takes his last chip (that is what you would think it would be - but read on) - online the ruling is thus:

There is no splitting of heads in a Headhunter tournament. If a player is eliminated by two or more players who split the pot, the value of his head is awarded to the winning player with the largest stack. If the stacks are equal, the winning player closest to the button collects his opponent's head.

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Re: Bounty problem

If it's a $5 bounty we just give it to the dealers as a tip. Anything over that gets split between the two people involved. For example, in a $100 tournament we might do $20 bountys. That get split between the people who knocked the guy out.
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Re: Bounty problem

As a TD and Floor Manager - it is always best to "follow the rules" as opposed to have ambiguity - you need to cover this situation from now on (now that it has raised its ugly head) and decide what is to be done.

The problem with "splitting the bouty" is that this opens it up for discussion for a person that actually wins the main pot but loses out on the side pots

Player 1 - starts hand with 100 chips
Player 2 - starts hand with 200 chips
Player 3 - starts hand with 1000 chips
Player 4 - starts hand with 4000 chips
All players all in by the end

Player 1 has worst hand - player 2 has 2nd best hand - player 3 has 3rd best hand - player 4 has 2nd best hand
In splitting the bounty - all players #2/3 and 4 would split the bounty (according to the consensus here)

It gets worse if player 1 has the 2nd best hand but loses to player 4

Thus the player that starts the hand with the most chip rule is easiest to figure out especially since in the above case

Player 2 did knock out player 1
Player 4 did knock out player 1 and player 3

In the "not split rule" player 4 would be awarded 2 bounties (player 1 and player 3)
in the "consensus" rule - player 2 / 3 / 4 would split player 1 bounty 3 ways
Player 3 would be also be split 3 ways even though player 1 did not actually knock him out
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As a TD and Floor Manager - it is always best to "follow the rules" as opposed to have ambiguity - you need to cover this situation from now on (now that it has raised its ugly head) and decide what is to be done.

The problem with "splitting the bouty" is that this opens it up for discussion for a person that actually wins the main pot but loses out on the side pots

Player 1 - starts hand with 100 chips
Player 2 - starts hand with 200 chips
Player 3 - starts hand with 1000 chips
Player 4 - starts hand with 4000 chips
All players all in by the end

Player 1 has worst hand - player 2 has 2nd best hand - player 3 has 3rd best hand - player 4 has 2nd best hand
In splitting the bounty - all players #2/3 and 4 would split the bounty (according to the consensus here)

It gets worse if player 1 has the 2nd best hand but loses to player 4

Thus the player that starts the hand with the most chip rule is easiest to figure out especially since in the above case

Player 2 did knock out player 1
Player 4 did knock out player 1 and player 3

In the "not split rule" player 4 would be awarded 2 bounties (player 1 and player 3)
in the "consensus" rule - player 2 / 3 / 4 would split player 1 bounty 3 ways
Player 3 would be also be split 3 ways even though player 1 did not actually knock him out
I'm not totally following you on this. Are you saying this if everyone is all in? In this case, not everyone was all in. There was no additional side pot. One guy went all in and two people called the ammount he went all in for. The two people who called both had exactly the same hand. They weren't all in, only the original guy.

Where are the rules located for bounties.... I have never seen them published.
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