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View Poll Results: Do you use antes? | |
Yes.
|    | 16 | 44.44% | |
No.
|    | 18 | 50.00% | |
I'm undecided too.
|    | 2 | 5.56% |
02-16-2007, 04:39 PM
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I still can't decide if should use antes or not. After watching Phil Hellmuth's tournament structures DVD, antes play a big role in playing style. But our game isn't very accustomed to using antes.
Do you guys use antes? Why or why not? |
02-16-2007, 05:13 PM
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Depends on the tourney. Sometimes we play a T10,000 NLHE based on the WSOP main event (with antes), but most of the time we don't. Basically, having antes gets an extra 1 to 1.5 BB in the pot to fight over, which forces you to play a little looser. This can speed things up, especially late in a tournament. At a 10 player table, the ante is typically 1/10 to 1/8 of the BB. At a 6-8 player table, maybe 1/8 to 1/5 of the BB.
In stud games/tourneys, you need an ante... and a bring-in... |
02-16-2007, 05:18 PM
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We don't, but I would like to. Some of the guys have to be reminded every f-ing time to post their blinds, an ante would slow things down too much.
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02-16-2007, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Matthew We don't, but I would like to. Some of the guys have to be reminded every f-ing time to post their blinds, an ante would slow things down too much. | Yep, this is my experience as well. It's tough to keep track of if people aren't used to it, and if you run a multi-table tourney, it's even harder. |
02-16-2007, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ink_junkie Yep, this is my experience as well. It's tough to keep track of if people aren't used to it, and if you run a multi-table tourney, it's even harder. | It's not that bad. The dealer should collect the antes in the middle, counting them, and making sure there are the right number before dealing. Then, while dealing, the dealer can mention that blinds should be posted.
I played at a multi-table home tourney a couple of weeks ago at 4ceps place. It went pretty smoothly, but I guess everyone there had done it before. In any case, you get used to it pretty quickly. And if there's one ante short, it's usually the person who won the previous hand who's been stacking his/her chips that forgot to put the ante in... |
02-16-2007, 05:37 PM
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Personally I'm not a big fan of ante in most home games. For most home games, I think the "cost" of antes outweight the benefits. If you have good players, longer rounds (min. 30mins), then I think they work better. With 20 mins rounds, I just don't really see the point of antes as enough pressure is already being applied by the escalating blinds.
That being said, I play in tournies that do and don't use them without any problems. |
02-16-2007, 05:47 PM
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we use antes to keep people from sitting on their chips. we have a bunch of tight players who want to slip into the money by "sitting", and the antes force them to put in chips even if they are not the blinds. |
02-16-2007, 05:53 PM
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I use antes, but sparingly.
I ususally start antes after all add-ons/rebuys are over... The only problem I have with antes is that they screw with coloring up. I guess its not a problem if you enjoy a ton of chips on the table - which i do 
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02-16-2007, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by jdunford It's not that bad. The dealer should collect the antes in the middle, counting them, and making sure there are the right number before dealing. Then, while dealing, the dealer can mention that blinds should be posted. | I agree it shouldn't be too difficult, but sadly it is. I've barely been able to get them away from using the small blind/big blind buttons 
We've had some new players join of late that have helped step up the game, which has been really helpful. Maybe I'll shoot for antes in a couple of months. It would be nice keep some of them from sitting on their chips. |
02-16-2007, 06:00 PM
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it's tough but worth it. it really juices the pot and livens up the game, especially if you have a bunch of tighties at the end. 
seriously, i think a big part of being a home game host is getting your players to the point where they're doing things to help keep the game moving all the time. in the beginning, they don't remember the blinds, but you help them learn it. same thing with acting out of turn, paying attention to when the action's on them, et cetera. in that regard, it's not so bad to introduce new things that you consider important... they'll learn them if you work on it.
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