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Old 09-23-2006, 10:57 PM
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Opinions about having a Tournament with Rebuys and Add Ons

After running 4 tournaments with a single buy-in I want to change gears a little and add Rebuys and one Add On at the first break. My normal buyin is 300 Riyals for T5000, don't worry too much about the conversion to dollars. I am going to drop the initial buyin from 200 riyals to 300 riyals and I know my Add On at the first break is going to be 100 riyals for 2500 more in chips. Here is what I am thinking for my rebuys...

1. The rebuys will be 200 riyals for another 5000 in tournament chips up until the first break. There are four rounds of play of 20 mins each till the first break and the round following the first break is 400/800.
2. You can only rebuy if you have zero chips left.
3. Another Bounty chip will be given for each rebuy.
4. No limit on the number of rebuys per player.
5. No limit on the number of rebuys for the tournament as a whole

Are all these correct or does anyone have any suggestions on how I may make some changes?
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Old 09-23-2006, 11:39 PM
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Re: Opinions about having a Tournament with Rebuys and Add Ons

Looks good. Maybe offer a double addon of 200 riyals for 5000 in chips at the end of the period. Making the rebuys the same cost/size as the initial buyin is a good idea too. You may want to adjust your blind schedule for this rebuy tournament. I usually start people out on a shorter stack because they have the rebuy option. relative to the blind that is.
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Old 09-24-2006, 03:02 AM
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Re: Opinions about having a Tournament with Rebuys and Add Ons

I agree with dropping the starting stack or speeding up the blinds. My normal tourney is T5000 but when I've done rebuys I make it T2500. What fun is a rebuy tourney if no one busts out in the first hour?

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Old 09-24-2006, 03:21 AM
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Re: Opinions about having a Tournament with Rebuys and Add Ons

I don't particularly like "rebuy if you bust" tournaments. It's because I'm used to 'stars rebuys where you can rebuy anytime you are below the starting stack. That's just how unlimited rebuy tournaments should go.

If it's a "one rebuy" tournament you can wait until people bust or go below a set number of chips.

If you're currently playing for 300, try an unlimited rebuy tournament for 100. Any savvy player is going to immediately rebuy and rebuy anytime they are below the initial. Your addon should be for 1.5 the initial stack for the same buyin. Check 'stars rebuy procedures for my ideal rebuy tournament.

Understand, the only reason I think like this is because I'm a 'stars player. If someone comes up with a better structure I'll definitely consider it.

If I did run a "one rebuy" tournament, I'd still let anyone below the initial take the rebuy. Anyone would be allowed the addon.

The addon is 1.5 the initial because you want money in the prize pool and someone with a 2.5 stack might not think that the rebuy is worth it if it's only 1.

edit: these 1.5 rebuys are for the initial 100 riyals, you simply get more chips for your money.
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Re: Opinions about having a Tournament with Rebuys and Add Ons

We play a T1500 rebuy and add on. For $5 you get 1500 in chips. You can also buy an additional 1500 for $5 bringing your total chips to 3000.

Anytime you get to 1500 or below you can rebuy an additional 1500 in chips for $5. We usually play for a very low amounts to encourage heaps of action and heaps of rebuys. We usually get it too. A couple of us have a traditional all in first hand without looking at our hole cards.

After 2 hours of rebuys we have an add on - 2000 in chips for $5. Then it is a freeze out until it is all over.

I'm not sure if these are the normal rules or not, they are just what we do.

The pool of money usually gets quite high, and there is a lot of action. I think they are great fun to do every now and again and recommend you give one a go.
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Re: Opinions about having a Tournament with Rebuys and Add Ons

On Tilt,

Can you please post your initial buy in chip stacks and blind schedule for this tournament, it sounds like a lot of fun and I'd like to try it with my group. We play for the same buy-in and the rebuys were I hit the last time I tried them. I just want to improve on the T1000 structure we used.

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We play a T1500 rebuy and add on. For $5 you get 1500 in chips. You can also buy an additional 1500 for $5 bringing your total chips to 3000.

Anytime you get to 1500 or below you can rebuy an additional 1500 in chips for $5. We usually play for a very low amounts to encourage heaps of action and heaps of rebuys. We usually get it too. A couple of us have a traditional all in first hand without looking at our hole cards.

After 2 hours of rebuys we have an add on - 2000 in chips for $5. Then it is a freeze out until it is all over.

I'm not sure if these are the normal rules or not, they are just what we do.

The pool of money usually gets quite high, and there is a lot of action. I think they are great fun to do every now and again and recommend you give one a go.
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A couple of us have a traditional all in first hand without looking at our hole cards.
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A couple of us have a traditional all in first hand without looking at our hole cards.
In my neck of the woods this is called "bush" league poker. It came from me when I got involved in a cash game, in the BB with the SB and the Dealer. Right before the guy deals they make a deal to not look at their cards (both of them had been getting cards like crazy and taking down a bunch small pots). I don't really like it, but I don't say anything. Well I get A6s and everyone folds to the dealer and the small blind who call. I knock and the flop comes AJ6. I am feeling pretty good. They check, I bet out $1 and they both call without looking. Turn, is a 6. Again they check, I bet out $2, dealer calls without looking, SB cracks, has to look at his cards and mucks. River is a blank, I bet $2 again, he calls I flip over my boat and then he flips over his pocket Jacks. Now I got a little frustrated because this guy always...and I mean always raises with a pocket pair. If he would have looked and played like he always does I would have folded. Actually I got a little bit more than frustrated....tilted, is a better description. I start grumbling a little bit and say "if I wouldve known we were playin frickin bush league poker, I wouldve never invited you, you son of $*%&^!!!" Of course everyone laughed because of what I said and how ticked off I was at losing that pot, so now they like to do it and someone always says "Uh, oh....bush league poker!" Then everyone laughs and points at me!! HAHAHAHAAHAHA

Other than that.....I really like your setup On Tilt...and i hope that you post your structure soon!

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In my neck of the woods this is called "bush" league poker. It came from me when I got involved in a cash game, in the BB with the SB and the Dealer. Right before the guy deals they make a deal to not look at their cards (both of them had been getting cards like crazy and taking down a bunch small pots). I don't really like it, but I don't say anything. Well I get A6s and everyone folds to the dealer and the small blind who call. I knock and the flop comes AJ6. I am feeling pretty good. They check, I bet out $1 and they both call without looking. Turn, is a 6. Again they check, I bet out $2, dealer calls without looking, SB cracks, has to look at his cards and mucks. River is a blank, I bet $2 again, he calls I flip over my boat and then he flips over his pocket Jacks. Now I got a little frustrated because this guy always...and I mean always raises with a pocket pair. If he would have looked and played like he always does I would have folded. Actually I got a little bit more than frustrated....tilted, is a better description. I start grumbling a little bit and say "if I wouldve known we were playin frickin bush league poker, I wouldve never invited you, you son of $*%&^!!!" Of course everyone laughed because of what I said and how ticked off I was at losing that pot, so now they like to do it and someone always says "Uh, oh....bush league poker!" Then everyone laughs and points at me!! HAHAHAHAAHAHA

Other than that.....I really like your setup On Tilt...and i hope that you post your structure soon!

Thanks!!
I'll pull it off the laptop tomorrow at work and post it.

I actually started the all in blind because I previously held the record for fastest to bust out - on the second hand. I figured if I talked someone else into doing as well I might no longer hold the title. A mate decided to join me, he also hadn't looked, and everyone else folded. He turned up A9o, and me 86o. I figured I was about to break my previous record, but an 8 came up and I won. Now it is a tradition, at least for me. No one has called me since.
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Re: Opinions about having a Tournament with Rebuys and Add Ons

Our rebuy rules:

T1000 blinds starting at 10-20. £5 for the initial buy-in, with unlimited rebuys as long as you are at or below half a stack, i.e. 750 or lower. At the break (6 levels / 2 hours in) we allow an add-on to anyone that wants one. All rebuys and addons are the same as the initial buy-in, £5 for T1000.

I don't really agree with the idea of making the add-on better value than the rebuys, because I don't really want to disadvantage someone that has played really well but doesn't have much money to spend. We have some of those. My tendancy would be to reduce the value if anything to make sure that only desperate people would need to use the add-on. As it is, keeping everything the same price keeps it simple for me to run.

As ever, YMMV.
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