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Old 11-10-2005, 07:38 AM
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Stack/Blind structure sticky?

I think there should be a stickied thread for people to post their tournament starting stacks and blind structures It can be a bit of a pain to search for them, and I'm always looking for some new ideas...

Like now, I'm just looking for ideas for a new structure. One guy mentioned something last night at our game, which I partially agree with. Right now we have T10k starting stacks, with blinds starting at 25/50. Although, he's complaining about our 2-2.5 hour games being too long Since I have almost a couple of sets now, with plans to get more, why not have a mix of structures?

I'm thinking a higher one for my Egyptians, because of the octagons and plaques (which I wish I had more of). And maybe a lower one for the Samurai set I'll get soon, since I like the $5 more than the $1000.

Edit: I might as well post what I'm using at the moment, for our 8 player max games:

Starting stacks (T10,000, 42 chips)
12 x 25
17 x 100
10 x 500
3 x 1000

Blinds
25/50 (15 min, the rest are 10 min)
50/100
75/150
100/200
150/300
colour up T25 chips
200/400
300/600
400/800
500/1000
700/1400
colour up T100 chips
1000/2000
1500/3000
... and increase by 500/1000 each level after this. Our games usually end around the 500/1000 to 1000/2000 level, after 2-2.5 hours. It's worked rather well over the last few months, and is fairly close to how long we want our games to be.

I've been thinking about making a structure that has the T500 chip as the highest, instead of T1000, just because there isn't much of a difference between the two. I guess I'd have to step down to use T5 chips then.
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Re: Stack/Blind structure sticky?

What a great idea, so many people either ask or look for this very kind of advice and this type of section would make it much easier to share and find answers. I think we should do it but wonder why I didn't come up with this idea sooner myself.
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Re: Stack/Blind structure sticky?

Something like this?

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Re: Stack/Blind structure sticky?

I have run a lot of T2000 tournaments that start the blinds at $25 $25 and then go up to 25 50 etc. Those tournaments lasted 1.5 hours to 3.5 depending on how aggressive I raised the blinds, how many players, re-buys and just circumstances. Starting chips are 8 - 25, 8 - 100 and 2 -500 - OR 12 - 25, 12 - 100 and 1 - 500. If you have enough chips you can always do 20 - 25 and 15 - 100, but I find that is a pain, especially when I have more than one table and have to move players to balance tables.
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Re: Stack/Blind structure sticky?

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Not really like that, no. The article you posted a link to is an excellent sources of advice and guidance as to how to determine structure and chip numbers, but the forum being proposed here would allow people to simply share the structure and chips they are already using in order to give people ideas and allow them to possibly copy something which has already been shown to work.
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Re: Stack/Blind structure sticky?

Here's a start. I can't take credit for it, a guy in our group put this together. You'll find blind structures and chip counts for 8 or 10 players, and games lasting from 2 hours to 6 hours. There are also two setups, one where the largest chip is a $500, and the other the largest chips is a $50,000. It also shows you how many chips you'll need in your set to make this work.

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1st choose whether you want to have a 'Regular' setup, or a 'Big' setup.

* The 'Regular' uses 1$ (White), $5 (Red), $25 (Green), $100 (Black), and $500 (Purple) chips.

* The 'Big' uses $100 (Black), $500 (Purple), $2,500 (Orange), $10,000 (???), and $50,000 (???) chips.

'Regular' info follows, 'Big' info is right after that lower down in the post...

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'Regular' Blind Schedule
....1 - 2....
....2 - 4....
....3 - 6....
....5 - 10...
...10 - 20...
...15 - 30...
...25 - 50...
...50 - 100..
..100 - 200..
..200 - 400..
..300 - 600..
..500 - 1000.
.....PROJECTED TOURNEY END.....
.1000 - 2000.
.1500 - 3000.

The reason the above works so well, is that if you use 10 min blinds, it will last 2 Hrs, 15 min blinds = 3 Hrs, 20 min blinds = 4 Hrs, 25 min blinds = 5 Hrs, and 30 min blinds = 6 Hrs.

If you use the 'Regular' blind schedule, to handle up to an 8 player tourney you need the following chips:
160 - Whites (1)
160 - Reds (5)
96- Greens (25)
80 - Blacks (100)
56 - Purples (500)
TOTAL = 552 chips

If you want to be able to handle up to a 10 player game:
200 - Whites (1)
200 - Reds (5)
120- Greens (25)
100- Blacks (100)
60 - Purples (500)
TOTAL = 680 chips

'Regular' starting amount for 8 player:
20 x 1 = $20
16 x 5 = $80
8 x 25= $200
7 x 100= $700
3 x 500= $1500
Total = $2500

'Regular' starting amount for 10 player:
20 x 1 = $20
16 x 5 = $80
8 x 25 = $200
7 x 100= $700
2 x 500= $1000
Total = $2000
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

'Big' Info:


'Big' Blind Schedule
....100 - 200....
....200 - 400....
....300 - 600....
....500 - 1000...
...1000 - 2000...
...1500 - 3000...
...2500 - 5000...
...5000 - 10,000.
.10,000 - 20,000.
.20,000 - 40,000.
.30,000 - 60,000.
.50,000 - 100,000
.......PROJECTE$D TOURNEY END.......
100,000 - 200,000
150,000 - 300,000

The reason the above works so well, is that if you use 10 min blinds, it will last 2 Hrs, 15 min blinds = 3 Hrs, 20 min blinds = 4 Hrs, 25 min blinds = 5 Hrs, and 30 min blinds = 6 Hrs.

If you use the 'Big' blind schedule, to handle up to an 8 player tourney you need the following chips:
160 - Blacks (100)
160 - Purples (500)
96- Oranges (2500)
80 - ??? (10,000)
56 - ??? (50,000)
TOTAL = 552 chips

If you want to be able to handle up to a 10 player game:
200 - Blacks (100)
200 - Purples (500)
120- Oranges (2500)
100- ??? (10,000)
60 - ??? (50,000)
TOTAL = 680 chips

'Big' starting amount for 8 player:
20 x 100 = $2000
16 x 500 = $8000
8 x 2500 = $20,000
7 x 10,000= $70,000
3 x 50,000= $150,000
Total = $250,000

'Big' starting amount for 10 player:
20 x 100 = $2000
16 x 500 = $8000
8 x 2500 = $20,000
7 x 10,000= $70,000
2 x 50,000= $100,000
Total = $200,000
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Re: Stack/Blind structure sticky?

I like the Tex's Tears structures. Why try to re-invent the wheel?
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Re: Stack/Blind structure sticky?

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Not really like that, no. The article you posted a link to is an excellent sources of advice and guidance as to how to determine structure and chip numbers, but the forum being proposed here would allow people to simply share the structure and chips they are already using in order to give people ideas and allow them to possibly copy something which has already been shown to work.
^^^ What he said

I have read that article, and it was quite useful. But I'm also interested in the sharing of ideas.
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