[omar]

So here is a very basic concept for my home game T of C that I would like to start. I would appreciate your comments on how to make it better, thanks in advance:

My current home game is every other week, averaging 8 players. We play NLHE, $30 buy-in, T1500 freezeout. We normally get 2 tourneys in each time we play.

I am thinking a quarterly T of C would be a fun addition to the game. So, since tomorrow is the first game of the 4th Q, I thought I would do this:

Charge an additional $3/person/tourney that will go toward the T of C pot. My schedule shows we will meet 7 times between tomorrow and the end of December so 2 tourneys each time X 7 nights = 14 tourneys. 8 players X $3/tourney X 14 tourneys = $336 for the T of C pot.
Points to be awarded as follows:
For each regular tourney, you get one point for everyone person that busts out of the tourney before you. Thus, if you bust out first, you get 0 points for that tourney, if you win, you get 7 points (assuming we started 8 handed). With 14 potential tourneys to play during the quarter, we would take each person's top 10 scores and add them together to determine, a) if they qualify for the tourney (top 10 players max) and, b) what there starting chipstack is (make each point worth T100 in chips). So, if you ended up with say, 64 points, your starting chips stack would be T6400. Obviously, I would have to adjust the blinds from what we normally use for T1500, to something more appropriate for the T of C.

Ok, very basic concepts, I know. What I am missing/doing wrong? I realize that one issue is assuming that everyone who shows up to play the regular tourneys will put the $3 in for the T of C. Or, that if someone consistently sucks that about halfway through the quarter, they might just quit their contributions. I'll just have to deal with that, I suppose. Your comments are appreciated.

[Wylecoyo]

Looks like an interesting concept. Maybe you could give bonus points for every player you bust. For example: say you come in second out of 10 but didn't actually bust anyone out during your play, you would get 8 points, but say the person who comes in third busted out four other players before exiting they would actually get 7 points for their finish plus four bonus points for the players they eliminated for a total of 11 points.

This is just an idea.

[ky70]

I'm very new to the TOC/poker league stuff (as I just started a couple of weeks ago), but I would award 1 point for the player who busts out first and 8 points for the player that comes in first (with 8 players). I just think it looks better for every player that plays to at least get 1 point.

[omar]

Originally Posted by Wylecoyo

Looks like an interesting concept. Maybe you could give bonus points for every player you bust. For example: say you come in second out of 10 but didn't actually bust anyone out during your play, you would get 8 points, but say the person who comes in third busted out four other players before exiting they would actually get 7 points for their finish plus four bonus points for the players they eliminated for a total of 11 points.

Interesting idea, and it makes sense from a risk/reward standpoint. Also, it will be easy to keep up with as soon as my BOUNTY chips arrive. Thanks!

[austin5string]

Another possibility regarding the concern of people not chipping in the extra $3, you could wrap that into the requirements.

In order to play in the ToC, a player must have contributed in at least 10 of the 14 events.

Or you could use the number of contributions as a percentage multiplier for the starting chip count. If a player has contributed at all 14 events, they get their starting chipstack x 140% down to someone who only contributed once getting 10% of their starting chip count.

Neither of those are perfect ideas, but I think there should be a incentive of some sort to toss in the extra 3 bucks.

[omar]

Originally Posted by ky70

I'm very new to the TOC/poker league stuff (as I just started a couple of weeks ago), but I would award 1 point for the player who busts out first and 8 points for the player that comes in first (with 8 players). I just think it looks better for every player that plays to at least get 1 point.

Good suggestion, thank you.

(If I was smart enough to know how to respond to multiple posts at the same time I would have done that........sorry)ops:

[whitepotatoe]

I would give more points to 1st and 2nd place. Its much harder to get a 1st place finish and a last place finish than two 5th place finishes.

Something like this might work
8th - 1
7th - 2
6th - 3
5th - 4
4th - 5
3rd - 6
2nd - 10
1st - 15

That way people will be playing for 1st and not just trying to squeek into 3rd, 4th, or 5th place. Also, maybe a 1 point bounty could be added on each player. So a player could win a total of 22 points if he takes out every player singlehandedly, (that would be impressive).

Good luck.

[ahopen78]

i know a guy that does this, he runs weekly tourneys, $20 buy-ins:

Ranking Index will be calculated using the following formula: (place in that tourney)/(# of players in that tourney)x10-(winnings x .05)+20. The average of each of these indexes will represent your Ranking index. 10% will be kept from each tourney to go towards the championship pot (this is not a rake, the 10% is only held until the championship tournament).


The highest ranked player will start with $200 dollars in chips. The lowest ranked player will get $30. Every player in between will get an equal increase in chips all the ways up to the highest ranked player. The “season” will run for 15 tournaments.

You need to play in 9 of the tournaments to qualify for the championship series.



The championship tournament will be played as a $50 buy-in “freeze out” tournament.

• • Players will receive a discount of $5 for every tournament they play over the minimum amount of tournaments required.
  • Ex. If player X plays in 11 tournaments (which is 2 over the minimum) he will get a $10 discount (2 extra tournaments x $5) thus he will pay $40 ($50 - $10 discount) for the championship.

Players that do not qualify for the championship tournament will be able to buy-in to the tournament. However they will have to pay 10 dollars for every tournament needed to equal the 9 tournaments required to play, on the top of the $50 buy-in. They will receive the same amount of chips as the lowest ranked player.

• • Ex. If player X plays in 7 tournaments, he will have to pay $20 (2 tournaments needed to equal 9, x $10) + the entry fee of $50 for the championship which = $70.

[ahopen78]

but i personally prefer to keep it simple like in your original post +maybe bounty points.

in terms of the contribution to the TOC, straight up percentage from the pot of each tourney, no if ands or buts.

also, i would be careful as to the disparity in chip amounts for the TOC as to make sure everyone is still incentivized to play.

[SteveA]

How about adding additional points for finishing in the money?

For example, if you pay out the top 3 spots, 1st gets +3, 2nd gets +2, and 3rd gets +1.