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Worst home game ever?

Discussion in 'Home Game General' started by SteveA, Aug 3, 2009.

  1. Jeff

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    Unfortunately no, or I'd have posted this in the good game thread :)

    I had $400 in my pocket, but after that surreal conversation I couldn't imagine what other crazy house rule they were going to pull out, and couldn't get out of the door fast enough.
     
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    Good point. Another way to state that rule: Guy with the most money wins! (since no one can call his bet)
     
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  3. BGinGA

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    I have two to tell... but I managed to minimize losses in both.

    1.
    Single-table tournament held at a fellow player's cousin's house. Low stakes, but I was just looking for something to fill a Satuday afternoon. Cousin announces $20 entry with 1-2 blinds, breaks out two 500 cases of dice chips. Opens said cases and looks at the first player as asks, "What color do you want to be?" Seriously.

    Okay, I immediately programmed my cell phone alarm to ring in 5 minutes, 'answered' the phone when the alarm rang, and gave my regrets to the host about having been called in to work on an emergency. Lord knows what happened after I left, but my friend said later that the chips were all worth the same amount (everybody got 100) and that the blinds never went up.


    2.
    Semi-serious tournament (so I was told) held at a friend of a friend's house; 8 pm start time on a weeknight. Some 26-27 players on three tables, $40 buy-in with no rake for T15,000 chips. So far, so good. Chipstacks (dice chips, no denoms) already on the tables: 4-T25 (white), 9-T100 (red), 4-T1000 (blue), 2-T5000 (green), with no T500 chips. I then asked to see the blind structure, which contained the following 30-minute blind rounds:
    25/50
    50/100
    75/150
    100/200
    200/400
    300/600
    400/800
    500/1,000
    600/1,200
    700/1,400
    800/1,600
    900/1,800
    1,000/2,000
    2,000/4,000
    5,000/10,000
    10,000/20,000
    20,000/40,000
    Payouts to top 3 players: 70%-25%-5%

    Well, I guess I see why they think they don't need T500 chips. But holy moly, this thing is going to run until 4:00 a.m., ending with a late-round shovefest crapshoot at a $10 3rd place profit?! When we still hadn't started by 8:30, I used the same phone trick as story #1 and left for greener pastures.


    Good poker is sometimes all about being in the proper position. Like at home. :laugh:
     
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    Ugh...

    Wimp!!! :happy:
     
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    I love this one - do they use different colours so they can rag on each other "look how many of your blue chips I have, sure i'm not winning but I have most of your chips, hehe"

    OMG shoot me now :sad:

    This is just toooooo funny :)
     
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    Was attending a MTT at a friend's house. As people bust out a cash game gets going. We're down to the final table and a group of 2 guys and their girlfriends, all drunk, show up for the cash game. Only problem is the other table is full, they have no interest in splitting up to play on two tables short handed, and the drunks wanted to play at the same table, so host tells them to wait for the tourney to be over since some of us still in are bound to want to play cash afterwards.

    So they proceed to come over to the final table and start harrassing us, commenting on hands, reading the board, speculating on holdings, and generally encouraging all-in moves and calls of all-ins. We kept asking them not to, but it was falling on deaf ears. Anyway, my buddy and I end up heads up. As many times as we've played together, neither of us recalled the last time we were heads up at the end of a tourney and we kind of wanted to play it out just for bragging rights, but of course the drunks want us to chop so we can get the cash game going already. Thinking we can make some money off these guys, my buddy and I agree to chop.

    The cash game is normally $1/$2 with most people buying in for anywhere between $100-$200. These guys inform us that they only want everyone to buy in for $40 because the girlfriends don't really know how to play that well. I don't like it, but we agree to it. Long story short, they push with any pair or any draw and continue to catch lucky, then insist that rebuys are only $40. My buddy's wife waits for a big hand and gets it all in with Aces, only to have them cracked by 63 (it was sooted). She's smart enough not to rebuy. My buddy and I, not so much. By the time I was out 3 buy-ins, one guy had over $250 in his stack, both girls were up, and only the other guy had busted out and decided not to rebuy. I figured the luck had to run out at some point and then we'd get it all back and then some. That's when they decided the girls had had enough. They cash out, but rather than leave, go out back to smoke. My buddy and I talked for a few minutes, then move to the other table, which now had a couple seats open.

    Less than 15 minutes later, the guys are back inside and have changed their mind and want to play again. They're bugging the host to split the table up. Oh, but they want to play together as well, so they only need a couple of people from our table. The host is trying to figure out how to accommodate this request since no one seems to be volunteering and decides we'll draw for it with low cards going over to join the other table, then he starts buying them back in while we proceed to draw cards. I get the 3 of clubs. Meanwhile, Mr. Moneybags informs the host, "Oh, we're all buying in for just $40."

    I jump to my feet. "That's it. I'm done. Cash me out." I say rather loudly. To be fair, the host's wife had cashed them out while he was in a hand, so he claimed not to know that the guy had cashed out over $250. After my outburst, the host proceeded to inform them that they had to buy back in for what they had previously taken off the table. Suddenly, none of them can remember how much they had cashed out, or even make a reasonably close guess, so they decide to leave. I ended up staying and donking off some more due to being on tilt.

    Lesson learned. A bad poker game is not better than no game at all.
     
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    A. No matter who the villains are in this account in relation to me if I were the host, I would have asked them to leave the second they showed up drunk/wanting to change the house rules/menacing a live game...

    B.If I have a full table and late comers/drunk folks want in, they will always wait for an open seat or leave or stand outside and smoke and cry about it. I would never in a million years split up a full table of players to accommodate people like this. Maybe if the waiters were cool and would agree to buy for a reasonable amount I might ask if I have any volunteers...maybe...

    And 3. "That's it. I'm done. Cash me out." would have been the first words out of my mouth when I got heads up and these people were acting this way...Totally unacceptable IMO.

    I'm fired up!!!!:yell:
     
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    I had a game at my house a couple of months ago with a few extended family members and a few buddies of mine. It was a T10000 tourney WSOP blinds, $35 buy-in with ten people.
    I welcomed everyone in to my game room and we draw for seats. I fill a Crown royal bag with numbered cards and let everyone choose a card which will coincide with a plaque on the table. (Seems easy and clear enough for most folks.) My brother in law brought his lady and in turn she brought her "Bestie" and her man. After drawing for seats the "Bestie" and her man decide it is imperative that they sit next to each other, so they begin trying to trade seating cards with people. I let this slide...Whatever, it's only an obvious rule of my house and game.
    The game goes on and everyone is having a good time. The "bestie" and her man are continuously showing each other their hands (only when one has folded) and giving each other advice on how to play those hands while the game is ongoing. I make mantion of my rule (only one player per hand) and get a snotty remark back from the "bestie" to the effect of "You take this crap pretty seriously, huh?" (awesome...seriously...awesome). I wanted to punch her "man" just on principle.
    The game goes on, still a good time is being had by all and I am second in chips to my brother. The "bestie" is short stacked and her man is in real bad shape. While the next hand is being dealt she shoves her remaining chips to her man and says "I don't want to play anymore", I look over and say "you can't give him your chips". Keep in mind I haven't blown up or acted like a jerk in any way, I have simply asked them to obey the rules of the house, when her "man" stands up and barks "what's your problem dude?!?". I point to the wall where I have a laminated poster of my house rules pertaining to tournaments and cash games.

    Rule #3: No player may give his/her remaining chips to another player in the same tournament.

    Pretty clear I think. I asked him to respect my house and my rules...He and the "bestie" both left after I offered to refund their money if they didn't want to obey the rules.

    Was I out of line? I know I don't run a casino, but It's really unfair to people who "take this crap seriously" to have to deal with these sort of people when real money is on the line.

    For the record, I did get in trouble with my lady and my brother in-laws lady for the whole thing...I tried to be cool about it and I think I was respectful of them, I just can't abide this sort of thing in a poker game...Maybe I got that OCD.
     
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    When I first saw this, I thought it read as "Beastie". After continuing through the rest of the post, it turns out my inital read was correct. :laugh:


    Dammit, Jim -- it's CDO - with the letters in the correct alphabetical order, the way they should be! :embarras:


    Seriously dude, your house, your rules. "Please abide by them or don't play (escpecially when cash is involved)." I recommend adding a disclaimer to the bottom of your posted rules that states something like: "Your participation in events at this locale implies your understanding of and agreement with the above house rules." Done deal, no valid arguments whatsoever.

    This is the opening paragraph of our home circuit rulebook (based on RRoP):
    "The Poker Home Circuit (PHC) management, tournament officials, and hosts will always attempt to maintain a pleasant tournament environment for all players, but are never responsible for the conduct of any player. A code of conduct has been established (see Section 1.2 below), and the privilege to play in PHC events may be denied to anyone who violates it. By participating in a PHC tournament, all players agree to abide by the rules herein and behave in a courteous manner."
     
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    No you were not out of line. Some people just don't get it! I have had a few similiar situations with my wife's family. Her mom and her sister have done almost the same thing...tournament was in about the 6th level and they both just decided they were done. I told them they have to play it out and before I could get to their table, they pushed their chips together and slid them over to father-in-law who started racking them into his stack. I completely lost my mind.

    We ended up in a huge fight...After that night, it was a whole year before I agreed to host again for her family.

    The next time was after the tourney at the cash game playing .25/.50. A couple of regulars I always play with, myself and one of my coworkers, my wife, her grandpa, grandma. Big pot comes down with just my one of the regulars and her grandpa, by the turn both had pushed everything in the middle. Neither show their hand, I deal the river...My buddy shows a flopped set, her grandfather flips over one card and says "you got me with that one", so I start pushing the pot to him and he says "but with this one, I got a Royal!"

    It was all I could do to keep my friend from killing him on the spot.
     
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    That is beat up!!!

    I would have freaked out. "I call...And raise you blah,blah,blah" and slow rolling are the two worst things ever...I hate every movie that makes string betting ok.
     
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    No it's 'I call you allin' and the guys who think it saves time to deal out the entire board ahead of time, face down.
     
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    LOL! Ya, that one makes me puke a little bit too. "I call you all in"... Blehk!
     
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    Hell no, that rule shouldn't even have to be posted. It's one thing when people don't know the rules of the game, it's another when they don't know that they don't know. We've had some really clueless people play with us, but no one has ever acted like we were in the wrong when politely telling them they can't do something. We've had people pull the "I call... and raise you..." and we've politely said, "sorry, once you call you can't raise, they're two different things." And they've just said "oh, sorry."

    I've only ever had one person ask to "cash out" of a tournament. This is the sort of misunderstanding I can sort of understand under certain circumstances (I know some tournaments actually do have that option), but in this case, I can't imagine what the guy was thinking. First of all, as usual, we were playing with high-denomination chips, as everyone started with T10K in chips for I think an $80 or $100 buy-in, so clearly he couldn't have thought he would be getting back $10,000 or whatever he had at that point. Second, it was a charity event. We had prizes, items that had been donated, but it's not like there were going to be any cash payouts from the buy-in money.
     
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    I've really got to try this sometime.

    Host: I'll take your $100... Okay, here's $10,000 in tournament chips.
    Me: I'd like to cash out, please.
     
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    I remember reading once that one of the players cashed out of one of the REALLY early WSOP Main Event tournaments, but of course up until a few years ago, the buy-ins were equivalent to the amount you received in tournament chips, and I guess tournament rules weren't quite as well-defined as they are today.

    Like I said, I can understand a new person not really understanding the difference between a tournament and a cash game. But yeah, that's quite a disparity.
     
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    Wait, so I can pull my chips off the table and give them to someone, in the next tournament?

    NonoNO! No refunds!

    KITNs all around...


    Tell them to stick it.
     
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    Host: "Sure thing! That's a smart move....
    Here's what you do: Take your chips, go through that door, turn left, and look for the cashier window.

    I'm sure they'll take care of you there...."
     
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    Reviving a very old thread...

    So, a buddy of mine wanted to start a semi-monthly game, rotating locations and such. I think this was his attempt to play poker, as his weekends are usually booked. I have played with him on several occasions, and I know he knows how to play and how a tournament works.

    4 days back, we receive the email with the details...

    - $20 buy in and you get $20 in chips. unlimited rebuys (no cut-off)
    - payouts are the top 4. 4th gets $10, 3rd gets $20...
    - Winner must buy the beer for the next game. 3 case MINIMUM.
    - bring your own chair.

    I emailed throughout the week to get some of these items fixed. Originally thinking that the blinds were going to start at 1/2, but they started at $.25/$.50. Still sucks, but it could be worse.

    The event is scheduled to start at 8 (people there by 8, cards in the air by 8:15). The organizer shows up at 8:30 and by the time we start, it is 8:45. 13 People paid and ready to go, with 2 maybes.

    - The tables: one tiled dining room style table and a folding card table put together to make 1 table, and 1 plastic long table for table 2. Table 1 (and 1A) have about a 6 inch height difference and 6 in width difference. UGH ! I get put at table 2, thankfully.

    When chips come out (dice chips of course, but I knew that), he says, everybody get some chips.. I then asked, "you are giving people the same amount of chips, right?". we counted out 13 stacks. we start the game, and nearly 1/2 of the people have no idea how to play. The O's game and the basketball game are on, which adds distraction.

    The levels are 20 minutes each. 1/2 way through the first level, 1 of the maybes shows up. he buys in and sits at my table. (using a bar stool at a regular table). the action is so slow. I didn't want to be the poker nazi, but was constantly trying to get people to act. with 6 people at my table, we played 4 hands in the first level. at one point, the side conversation of a hand took over 5 minutes. People were putting cards on their laps, getting up to watch the game, or worse, watching everyone act and cluelessly sitting there waiting for someone to tell them what to do.

    Since the chips were dice chips, there were no denominations. It was so bad, that player A would ask what the chips were worth. After the explanation, they call, and the next person would ask the denominations again. Explained, and then the next person would ask. Hey look, he comes another person at 9:15. he buys in and sits at my table too. He has no clue what is going on either. One dude always throws in 1 white chip ($.25), and asks if he is calling.

    I started with the button. with 8 minutes left in the second level, I get the button again. everyone limps for $1, and I shove with 85o for my remaining $13. Everyone is like WTF, really!?!?! One guy tanks for 2 minutes, and finally calls. everyone else folds. I don't pair, and didn't expose my hand. I insta muck and bid adieu. (He had AK). I told the host thanks, but I just can't play in the game, as I have a hard time playing in this style of game.

    One of my regulars was at the game too (friends of the organizer), and he was sticking it out. We tried to get bigger starting stacks, but the host wanted to keep it "friendly". I don't think I am going to try this again.

    Mark
     
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    So gross. If I were in your shoes, I'd pay $20 to get off the invite list. :wink:
     
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