Welcome to the ChipTalk Community

Want to join the rest of the ChipTalk members? It is free to sign up today and unlock new features, discussions, and reduce the advertising.

Sign Up

Worst home game ever?

Discussion in 'Home Game General' started by SteveA, Aug 3, 2009.

  1. SteveA

    SteveA Well-Known Member
    Supporter

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2005
    Messages:
    749
    Likes Received:
    11
    Location:
    Vancouver, BC
    Worst Cash Game:

    I go to a bbq/poker night at a friend of a friends place, and he gives everyone 20 50c chips for the $10 buy in cash game and says the blinds are 50c/$1 :?

    My friend said we should at least make the blinds 50c/50c...but it still sucked. I knew the host was really looking forward to the poker game, so I played for an hour and stacked off when I knew I was beat.

    Worst Tourney:

    A couple of my friends like turbo style tourneys - they're always playing the 10BB starting stack sit n go's online :sad:

    In their tourneys, we always start short (about 50bb's), and the blinds double every 15 minutes. At one tourney I went to, his pissed drunk friend was sitting on my right and I had to manage his chips all night because he couldn't count them out. The drunk ended up busting me out after calling my shove with 94 off. Good times.

    EDIT: There's an upside to these tourney home games...he lets me run the cash game after, and he's got some friends that are super donks...so it's still +EV to donk off $20 in the tourney and make money from the donks in the cash game.

    What are your worst home games?
     
    #1
    Last edited: Aug 3, 2009
  2. imthatguy

    imthatguy Lifetimer/Former Mod
    Lifetime Supporter

    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2005
    Messages:
    8,669
    Likes Received:
    65
    Location:
    Pokerchip Nirvana
    Jdunford has a doozie of a story. I won't even try to retell it. It's awesome.
     
    #2
  3. guinness

    guinness Degen Gatekeeper
    Lifetime Supporter

    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2005
    Messages:
    7,553
    Likes Received:
    8
    Location:
    New Boston, NH
    I have a story about the worst home game eva.

    I'm at a conference near Boston and buddy up with an MIT alumn. We're stuck in a hotel for a week (regardless if you live close or not they required you had to stay at the hotel). My new friend mentions that he might go back to Cambridge where he lives to hit up "THE" MIT game that plays every Thursday. Its a single table game that rotates like 40 people in and out of the house throughout the night. Great open bar, every energy drink you could think of, all on the house. No rake.

    So I play for about 2 hours. I don't see any real talent here poker wise and basically the people are half cool smart people and the other half are social freaks.

    One of the freaks, who is about 18 years old wearing this bright purple ladies shirt and has white dyed hair that is a super fro'd up is in a pot with me (he had not been talking...at all..which made his 70's David Bowie look more freakish). I flop the nut straight and we both check. The turn came a low brick (2nd heart on the board). I look down at about $250 and he has about $40. I go all in. He thinks, thinks, thinks, thinks.....breaks out his wallet (Wat?) and puts down the $250. He calls with 6 high and gets his flush on the river.

    Now, this was bad and I was all like "WTF about table stakes". They say there are no table stakes. I'm steaming, I try to rebuy and then they throw down this other rule. IF YOU GO ALL IN AND YOU LOSE, YOU MAY NOT BUY BACK INTO THE GAME. At this point some 14 year old next to me says in low voice "Its a good rule. It protects everyone". WAT????

    Anyone who knows me knows I have a big mouth. I start a tirade about how ridiculously stoopid these rules are and everyone just sorta avoids me. I was with my friend and had to sit there for 2 hours and not play, at which point the game had changed up players so much that I begged to rebuy in. They eventually complied...I started playing maniac and the game ended 10 minutes later (due to me I'm sure). Worst...game...ever.

    Also, the game was 1/2 and everyone used QUARTERS! Actual Quarters! Some people used bills but all the betting was like $5 or less and they used QUARTERS! No chips. Not even dice. I was one of like 2 people using bills.
     
    #3
  4. imperial10

    imperial10 Creativity Alliance

    Joined:
    Mar 10, 2006
    Messages:
    2,489
    Likes Received:
    12
    Location:
    California
    To steve A

    Starting with short stacks suck big time. it's such a crap shoot, you guys might as well play roulette.


    Now this is some genuine bull spit right there ladies and gentlemen. Isn't it a given that all poker games are table stakes?
     
    #4
  5. 99%evil

    99%evil Banned

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2005
    Messages:
    6,926
    Likes Received:
    351
    Location:
    Concord/Bow, NH
    THat's what I'm used to, but my fiancee's dad had a poker game 4 months ago where people kept pulling money out of their wallets halfway through hands. I tried to explain how this could be abused and they said, no one would try that in this friendly game. Completely sucked, I wasin a hand (playing 25/50¢) and had about $40 in front of me, I hit top pair on a hand and put a short stack in for his whole $5. When the turn comes a face card he reaches in his pocket and raises more... WTF?!?!?!?! Suffice to say, next time he has a game, I'm changing the f***ing rules. I don't care if it's "his" game. It's f***ing stupid.
     
    #5
  6. whataboutj

    whataboutj TAG extrodinare

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2006
    Messages:
    4,693
    Likes Received:
    120
    Location:
    on the wayyy negative side of varince
    They were allowed to take money out of their wallett???? nice game :razz:
     
    #6
  7. 99%evil

    99%evil Banned

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2005
    Messages:
    6,926
    Likes Received:
    351
    Location:
    Concord/Bow, NH
    I know I've heard this in person... if you had won the hand would you have given back his $250?
     
    #7
  8. jtlee

    jtlee Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2008
    Messages:
    367
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Orange County, CA
    MIT = smart?

    I would have chucked $40 at him (in quarters) and split. You're never going to go play there again so who cares what they think. Tell them to try that crap at a casino or 99% of home games and see how it goes for them.
     
    #8
  9. guinness

    guinness Degen Gatekeeper
    Lifetime Supporter

    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2005
    Messages:
    7,553
    Likes Received:
    8
    Location:
    New Boston, NH
    Of course not...but the reality is that the entire thing happened so fast... it was just a shell shock. When he put down the money, I was all confused in the moment. He wouldn't show his cards either. I showed my straight and he just sat there..silent..with his cards down waiting for the river. When the heart hit the river I'm like "nah...he didn't put down that for a flush draw" and when he showed 6h-4h or something like that I was in shock. I had a Q or so straight. He had under cards so its not like he had any additional outs. The whole experience was weird.
     
    #9
  10. tape

    tape Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    186
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Dorchester, MA
    That's.... baffling. Almost anywhere I can think of, if you tried to pull that stunt, you'd get your nose broken.
     
    #10
  11. dolomite128

    dolomite128 Creativity Alliance
    Supporter

    Joined:
    May 25, 2005
    Messages:
    2,719
    Likes Received:
    21
    Location:
    Massachusetts
    I would have politely asked him to go f*ck himself then ever so gently hit him over the head with a chair.

    Then I would have left with a "long Live the University of Akron".

    ...maybe I have some anger issues...
     
    #11
  12. cpiaaq

    cpiaaq Creativity Alliance

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2005
    Messages:
    2,499
    Likes Received:
    51
    I'm embarrassed to say that in MY home game we don't play table stakes. We do all mixed-game-wild cards-whatever dealers choice.... and you can rebuy at any time. There's no "All-In" but there is a "max bet" which is equal to the standard buy-in. Its been this way for 15 years.

    It seems the only games where there's any demand for table stakes (it has come up a few times) are hold'em and omaha. I agree for those games, and we remind the dealers to call it out.

    Anyway, everyone that plays knows you can go to your wallet at any time. 99% made the comment "I tried to explain how this could be abused"......... can someone explain it to me? I don't want to be the host who's game nobody wants to play in, but I don't want to change rules that have been nudged into place over the last 15 years either.
     
    #12
  13. bergs

    bergs The Don Rickles of Chiptalk
    Lifetime Supporter

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2008
    Messages:
    11,351
    Likes Received:
    44
    Location:
    Drinking at Jimmy Wah's
    Hey - careful fellas. This is the Massachusetts Institute of Technology that we're talking about. You don't want to start sh_t with the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.
     
    #13
  14. tape

    tape Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    186
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Dorchester, MA
    The "worst" tourney I've played at was run at a local Elks Lodge/VFW-type establishment, whose name will go unmentioned as they still run the game weekly to my knowledge. I put worst in quotes because I actually won the tourney a couple of times and top-three'd a few others.

    Anyway, the tourney starts out with 1/2 blinds. Each level, the small blind goes up 1. EVERY LEVEL. So it goes 1/2, 2/4, 3/6, 4/8, 5/10, 6/12... the whole night. it gets really absurd when you're at the final table or two and playing stuff like 17/34 blinds.

    But like I said, I can't complain that much because I probably raked like $3000 on $20 buyin tourneys over the course of a year or so. And the people were always generally alright, it's just that the format's retarded.

    I can't really think of a really solidly bad home game I've played in. I think all the ones I've played have been a minimum of solidly mediocre.
     
    #14
  15. JM

    JM Well-Known Member
    Lifetime Supporter

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2005
    Messages:
    32,844
    Likes Received:
    371
    Location:
    Massachusetts
    Re-read guinness' post. That's exactly how it can be abused. As far as he was concerned, he was only risking $40 of his $250 in that pot. If the other guy had $250 on the table, he probably plays it differently.

    I could see someone doing this, buying in for 20BB or so and then when a big stack makes a move they pull out more $$ if they have the nuts or a good draw, or not if they just have a mediocre hand/draw. Its hedging your bets, like hiding your high denom chips behind lower ones in a tourney and trapping someone who thinks they have you covered. IMO its borderline cheating.
     
    #15
  16. jbutler16

    jbutler16 Old Man Sweater

    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2008
    Messages:
    10,285
    Likes Received:
    34
    I would have had to go to jail over this because I would have kicked the ever living sh*t out of whoever tried to enforce those rules.


    And this pissant might have gotten a broken nose too depending on how long it took for the enforcer to bleed out.
     
    #16
  17. guinness

    guinness Degen Gatekeeper
    Lifetime Supporter

    Joined:
    Dec 7, 2005
    Messages:
    7,553
    Likes Received:
    8
    Location:
    New Boston, NH
    The worst tournament game eva is the Sharky's Poker room in Manchester, NH. Its public. The law in NH is that all you cannot bet more than $2 (although I think this just changed to $5) and no limit is not allowed but this "tournament" is allowed.

    Its 2 blocks from my work and I never go, but decided to check it out last summer. About 20 tables but only one has players, about 7 or 8. I ask about it, the cage guy says "$50 tournament. $10 goes to the house. You play for one hour". I ask what the places pay, he acts weird and says "he'll tell you", pointing to the dealer.

    I sit down with my chips. Nobody will answer the payouts but the dealer says "well, its usually about 3". I come to find out that if you still have chips after the hour has passed, you get paid what you have in chips.

    The tourney denoms were 5 and 25. Well, once the smoke had cleared, I realized it is really a 1/2 NLHE cash game for 30 mins...then a 2/4 NLHE game for 30 mins...and if your $40 holds up for an hour you get paid the chip values ($1 for every $5 you have in tournament chips..we started with $200 in tourney value chips with the $40 buyin).

    I ended up being the chip leader after the hour and the dealer hands me like $600 (rebuys were allowed in the first 30 mins). I'm like "SWEET!" then the other 2 guys still at the table said "you have to pay us...the dealer can't pay us" meaning that it was a loophole to get by NH law to have a NL cash game. I ended up with like $350 or something but never again. It was just a coin flip since everyone shoved when they wanted to play a hand, including me. Must miss!

    Someone told me that they've had 5/10 and 10/20 games disguised as tournies with a similar format but with like $100 buyin lol.
     
    #17
  18. cpiaaq

    cpiaaq Creativity Alliance

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2005
    Messages:
    2,499
    Likes Received:
    51
    I understand this point completely and agree its serious angle shooting. There's never been a situation like this at my game.....We make this odd rule very clear to all players. Anyway, thank you for the response.
     
    #18
  19. john

    john Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2007
    Messages:
    602
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Australia
    I played in a home tournament were the host pulled out a heap of black, green and purple chips divided them up into 6 even stacks for each player (between 10 to 15 of each colour) said ok blacks worth 1, green 2 and purple 3. blinds 1/2. After playing like this for a while i asked about blinds and he said they can go up whenever we feel like it. So they stayed low for ages and the game dragged on till everyone got bored and the blinds started doubling what seemed like every few hands.
     
    #19
  20. sleazius

    sleazius Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2006
    Messages:
    241
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Sydney, Australia
    A lot of the 1 table tourneys (people over here seem to be averse to playing cash games) that I find myself reluctantly playing, often have a rule that the blinds only double when someone goes out.

    This results in 1 of two things happening:
    - at some point there is an all-in pot with multiple people, two go busto and the blinds quadruple instead of double, resulting in insta-cripple for the remaining short stacks.
    - blinds at the end of it are insanely large, and heads up play consists of 5 hands of 'who can bluff and/or fluke cards better'.

    Another game that I sometimes play in (due to a lack of local games) is a tourney that generally gets 30-40 players to. For the first 2hrs rebuys are unlimited @ $10 a hit. Just results in a madman's festival of all in calls. The tourney usually pays out 6 players, and there is generally $3k at stake by the end of it. Highly annoying game where the fattest wallet invariably finishes top 3.
     
    #20

Share This Page