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Raid in Edmonton, AB, Canada

Discussion in 'Home Poker and the LAW' started by tastic, Mar 17, 2006.

  1. tastic

    tastic Well-Known Member

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    Saw this in the paper today...

    silly guys got busted because they were taking a rake...

    Twelve charged in Edmonton gaming house raid


    Edmonton Journal


    Published: Thursday, March 16, 2006
    It could have been a scene from Guys and Dolls!
    Police and gaming officials shut down a gambling house near downtown Edmonton Wednesday night and arrested its occupants following an undercover investigation into illegal poker games.
    Three people have been charged with operating an illegal gaming house at 10580 116 St. and nine have been charged with playing poker or being inside the gaming house.
    An investigation team from the Alberta Gaming and Liquor Commission, assisted by city police, raided the house as a result of an undercover investigation that began in September.
    Although a raid on a poker may seem like a throwback to earlier times, an Alberta Gaming spokeswoman says there have been a few in recent years.
    “It does happen,” said Robyn Cochrane. “I don’t know if we’re seeing more now. Often, our investigations involve illegal bookmaking. But gaming houses are a concern as well.”
    She added an earlier raid on a gaming house in Medicine Hat is currently before the courts.
    Under the Criminal Code, gambling is legal only if it is licenced by the provincial government and the proceeds go to charities. Gambling includes card and dice games, slot machines and video-lottery terminals, lotteries, raffles and pull tickets.
    Any gaming not operated or licensed by the province is illegal. Illegal gaming includes bookmaking and operating a common gaming house, which takes a rake from unlicensed casino games such as poker, blackjack and baccarat.
    Poker games in private residences or clubs are legal as long as the homeowner or organizer of the games are not profiting.
    “Stopping illegal gaming is important because these illegal activities take money away from Alberta charities,” said Lou Hudon, director of investigations for Alberta Gaming.
    "Playing poker in private homes or clubs is not illegal unless the house or the group hosting the poker game profits from the game. It is the commercial aspect of the game that contravenes criminal law."
    Those charged in Wednesday’s raid are scheduled to appear in court April 26.
    Penalties vary but can range from fines to imprisonment.
    The Alberta Gaming and Liquor Commission established the gaming investigation team in 2001 to combat illegal gaming and other gambling-related crimes. The team is made up of Alberta Gaming investigators, police forces and other government ministries.
    Last year, the team worked on 52 investigations around the province and laid a total of 11 criminal charges. These investigations focus on the more serious commercial gaming operations including bookmaking, gaming houses and illegal lotteries.
     
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  2. Captn_All_In

    Captn_All_In Creativity Alliance

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    People will never learn. The biggest problem with bustin this game is that all the regulars who weren't there that night probably are going to open their own "establishments" and now there will be even more problems for the man to worry about!!:wink:
     
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  3. House of Payne

    House of Payne Well-Known Member

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    Does this mean that when playing at my house I have to give back all the money I won at the end of the night? :)

    Mike
     
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  4. littlebu

    littlebu Well-Known Member

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    No, it means you have to donate it to a charity. Send me a pm and I'll give you an address you can send your donation to lol.
     
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  5. Captn_All_In

    Captn_All_In Creativity Alliance

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    If that charity doesn't seem suitable I also have one you can send it to.

    You can also use Paypal!
     
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  6. tastic

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    The post is about Edmonton so clearly the winnings should be send to me here :wink:
     
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  7. TheDuke

    TheDuke Well-Known Member

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    I just saw this on the morning news. The game was being played at the 'Northwest Bible College'. They were reportedly making as much as $250/hr.
     
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  8. Captn_All_In

    Captn_All_In Creativity Alliance

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    That's a pretty good place to hold a game if you don't want the cops to find it. But, it might be a little hard facing the big man upstairs when the race is over.:sorry:
     
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  9. Brewster

    Brewster the office ninja

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    It always comes down the the rake. No rake = no problems.
     
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  10. PocketRocket

    PocketRocket Well-Known Member

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    Kind of odd that no one mentioned that the province of Alberta is a bit like Nevada with legitimate licensed casinos. It wouldn't be any different in Nevada if someone were to open an unlicensed gaming establishment, nor in most other states in the U.S.

     
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  11. luckychick

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    I could be wrong, but I don't think that Alberta is quite like Nevada. In order to run a "legitamate casino" you need to be operated by a tribe or a legitamate charity, which is also the rule for all provinces, I think. Deciding whether you are a charity or not is under provincial jurisdiction.
     
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  12. PocketRocket

    PocketRocket Well-Known Member

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    Well it's your hometown, I'd be more inclined to rest on your info. :) So all the casinos (like the Palace at WEM) are run by tribal concerns? I'm guessing with so many of those casinos in malls and strip malls, they're not there for charity purposes?

    Though my point in itself, was that even in a locale like Alberta or Nevada where casinos are legal (though some form of gaming seems to be everywhere these days), you just can't go and throw up a shingle and start your own cardroom or casino without the necessary permits.

    EDIT: It would appear http://www.aglc.gov.ab.ca/pdf/handbooks/casino_licensee_terms_and_conditions.pdf that individuals and corporations can apply for a casino facility license in Alberta and operate within the guidelines set forth in the linked document.

     
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  13. Wedge Rock

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    So any truth to the rumor that the cops were tipped off by the clinking of cheap composites...?

    Buy good chips and this kind of thing might never happen...
     
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