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Pawn Stars - Old Gambling Kit

Discussion in 'Poker Gear General' started by warewulf, Aug 20, 2010.

  1. warewulf

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    i saw it and was surprised nobody posted about it. The accessories in the bottom were the best part. i think the chips were 11.5 gram official casino weight.
     
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    This is such a cool item, easily one of the best things brought into the shop that I've seen. Too bad he didnt sell. Thats one thing that bugs me about the show, someone brings something in to pawn and finds out its worth MORE than they thought, then wont sell. You were probably willing to take 2 grand to start, but find the history of it and then wont take 6K. I just wonder if the cameras werent rolling if they just lo ball people?
     
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    I've always wondered this. They're in the business to make money. I understand the need for their "experts" in a lot of the situations, but I'm sure there has been a time or two when they knew something was worth a lot of money and neglected to share that with the seller who was happy to walk away with a $100 in their pocket.
     
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    If people weren't greedy for the cash NOW then they would never go to a Pawn to sell their goods. That just isn't smart in the long run if you want to maximize the value of the item, so they're doing it because they don't think they have a choice, or they don't know any better. But any one of those clowns that come in with something potentially valuable - if they just took a few months to do some real research (contact a few appraisers themselves) and sell at auction rather than at pawn they'd probably make a lot more, but they'd have to wait, and it probably wouldn't be straight-up cash. Unfortunately this also draws flies to their business so they have to worry a LOT about stolen goods.

    I saw the episode with the old gambler's kit, and I gotta say I'm amazed. The guy who took a look at it is a period expert of western history that mainly knows weapons I think. The actual gambling chips, cards, etc. could have come from ebay as far as he knows. There were some personalized elements in there that help authenticate it, but those chips are all over ebay and were made for decades. I don't think those were part of the original kit.

    In all I'm amazed that a pawn shop would take on so many collectibles, but again, they're a much larger outfit, and probably have made a name for themselves that way. Any pawn shop will need to rely on their buy/sell business to make additional money for them. They can't just do it on pawning alone, but you'd expect the usual tools, weapons and jewelry to be a core part of their business - not 18th century clocks and documents signed by Ben Franklin.

    The one thing the show doesn't cover is the sell part of their business, which I would LOVE to see.
     
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    They said on the show they main item they buy is "gold," so I would have to think this is a major part of the profits of the business. But people bringing in rings and necklaces worth $75 does not make for great television.
     
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    People can sell their stuff at auction, but then you have to pay auction fees I know on estate sales, paying 30-40% to the auction house is average. Thats not much better than the pawn shops, plus you dont have to wait.
     
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    After spreading word of the set, he could list it on Ebay for an insanely high amount, then make a side deal. There's always a way to bypass the fees if you can find out who is interested.
     
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    I just saw this epesode and was amazed when I saw this set. Add to it the history and I'm not surprised that the owner did not sell. $6000 is a lot of money but im sure that he can get more than that................owesome set!
     
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    I saw this episode. There was also another 2 episodes recently aired where someone came in to sell a $5 California Club LV (?) chip on the arodie mold. The Old Man said that the last time he checked there were 8 in existence. I can't remember if the guy got $200 or $2000 for it.

    In the other episode, someone came in trying to sell 3 plaques from the Sahara. Rick was like, "i think they're called placards." The seller wanted face value ($625?) but only got like $175 or $200 for them
     
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    I doubt it was the California Club. They never had a chip on the Arodie (and if they did, it would definitely catch my interest).
     
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    I could have been the las Vegas club, hence the question mark :wink:
     
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    Looks like the clip has been removed.
     
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    i watched the first link posted and saw nothing of the gambling set...what was the name of the episode? the link to the ct thread i posted you scroll down to see Dave Atell and Rick before the show in 2003...

     
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    I every1 i saw that episode of pawn stars and i thought it was the coolest thing ever but last wei bought one it has 1871 xl no4 Hopkins and Allen revolver unopened box of cigars a Harrison brothers and howson dagger red white and blue flush hand poker chips wooden dice and a very old deck of cards with no numbered just nthe shapes on the front has a train
     
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    You guys are silly,

    The show is scripted, items like this are brought in for entertainment value, collectors are contacted to showcase interesting items, experts are brought in to talk about them, and that's the entire show.

    there is nothing real about reality television.

    The storage wars shows are even worse, it's so bad.

    The ideas for the shows are great, and they try to capture the essence of what's going on, but production companies cannot afford to have boring shows, so the make certain it's interesting.

    Sorry folks.

    The gambling set is awesome though, and even with all that said, i enjoy these shows, because i learn about collecting.
     
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    I thnk Hardcore Pawn? Real

    Pawn Stars? Maybe

    World worst Tennents? Fake

    Craig D
     
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    Having worked in pawn shops for 12 years and owning my own shop for 5 I can say with complete confidence that they are all scripted. You would never let an expert give you a value in front of a customer. The margine they buy on is unrealistic. For the most part if you can't double your money forget it. The 1 exception is precious metals gold silver platinum those can be turned for cash imediatly after they clear the holding period. Every thing else you have to wait for or find a buyer. Hardcore is closer to real then the others
     
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  20. Zmasterben

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    These guys are some of the most famous pawn star owners in the world now with clients lined up for these items. Most of what they buy has basically already been sold for profit before they shake hands. I have no evidence to suggest it is real, but out of all the related shows it's like it should be really low down on your suspicion radar unless you assume they are all fake.

    I've been to Gold and Silver Pawn and they had a lot of show purchased items marked up like crazy because they were famous from the show.

    Also, if you think Pawn Stars is fake but Hardcore Pawn is real, that is baffling to me. Hardcore Pawn seems like it is literally scripted word for word.
     
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