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"Newbie Tip of the Day" - A series of advice messages...

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  1. Gaming Ore

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    Presented here are re-prints of a series of posts being made by CC&GTCC Treasurer, Doug "Cigarman" Smith on TheChipBoard.com as advise to the new collector.

    I am simply copying and pasting here, without making any editorial comments, changes or modifications. I am also keeping the thread locked, so that each post can be presented as a series of messages without interuption.

    Each post (or numbered Tip) will carry a hot-link to the original post. The purpose is so a reader here can make a reply/comment/question to the author at the source of the series.

    Doug can be emailed directly at: treasurer@ccgtcc.com

    Doug can also be PM'd here on ChipTalk at: cigarman.

    So Doug, Welcome to ChipTalk!

    Please enjoy,

    Jim (Gaming Ore) Follis
     
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    by Doug "Cigarman" Smith...

    As if I didnt have my hands in enough fires at the moment (Treasurer, Personal chip Project, Personal Chip Auction, Collecting BOD comments) I am going to take take on yet another.......

    My Mother would say I am glutten for punishment and my grandmother would use a great yiddish word that she used once in a while....... she would call me a shmuck........
    However I still have an hour of two that I probably should use for sleeping or eating, but what the heck.
    From today forward I would like to offer something new..... The "Newby, Tip of the day"
    This will be an attempt to inform, educate, and possiblly even help those new to the hobby with some pitfalls that they might experience. I have about 20 or so in mind already but I am sure I will come up with a lot of others.
    If those more experienced collectors would like to see me discuss something, please email me rather than post on the board and I promise I will work it in as soon as I can. So Here Goes.........
     
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    Newbie Tip of the Day #1 !!!!!!!!!!!!

    Make a visit to the club website
    The CC&GTCC Website at www.ccgtcc.com is an invaluable tool for both members and non members alike. For those who havent been there before you can experience one of the most comprehensive archives of manufacturers records available anywhere. You can use this to ID many chips that were previously listed as unknown.

    Also please check out the clubs Fakes, Fantasy and Counterfeit page. It is an invaluable tool for determining what chips are real and which are fakes.
    How about the articles like Cleaning your chips, Chipology 101, Robert E's Rim Mold project, Buyers guide to casino collectables, Ask the expert program.

    Lets not forget access to the Club Library where hundreds of great referance books can be checked out to members for free !!!!!!!!!
    Email and mailing addresses for BOD members and chairpeople.

    The Club Message Board.
    Links to local clubs.
    And Much Much more.

    In my opinion, if you havent been to the club site and you collect chips your missing out. Whether your a current member or not, this is a LOT of great information !!!!!!!!!

    And best of all, ITS ALL FREE information to use.

    Please look for my future tips of the day and remember if you have any tips of your own, please email me and I will make sure to discuss them.

    Thanks and happy chipping to all.

    Doug "Cigarman" Smith
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    Newbie Tip of the Day #2 !!!!!!!!!!!!

    Collect what you like and because you like collecting!


    What I mean is all too often I see collectors enter a hobby for reasons other than just collecting. If you start out collecting chips as an investment, you may end up being dissapointed.

    In my previous life I was a Sportscard collector and dealer for many years. What I saw happen to that hobby (Especially with the introduction of slabbing) was many enter the hobby as an investment rather than as collectors. When the bottom dropped out on the newer issued cards there were a lot of people who lost money and it soured them on collecting.
    If you truly enjoy collecting the things you buy and trade for, you will never be dissappointed.

    Now I am not saying Chips are not potential investments, as in the past few years prices we have realized record prices for chips with new records being broken all the time. I remember just a few years back as the entire board watched James sell his $5 Sands Blue Arodie for what seemed like an astronomical amount.

    What I am saying is that if you pick up chips that you truly love because you like the way they look or you like the particular mold they are on you cant go wrong.

    If you go after what you like, you will always be happier with your purchase and your collection.

    Keep watching daily as I will add a new Newby tip every day.
    If those more experienced collectors would like to see me discuss something, please email me rather than post on the board and I promise I will work it in as soon as I can.

    Thanks and Happy Chipping,

    Doug "Cigarman" Smith
    Proud member of the CC&GTCC LM-3209-147

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    Newbie Tip of the Day #3 !!!!!!!!!!!!

    Limit your collecting to certian areas.


    One of the biggest pitfalls I experienced as a new collector is that I wanted to collect everything. I went after Chips and tokens from anywhere I could get them and traded for ANYTHING that I didnt already have.
    I soon came to realize that I will never be able to get EVERYTHING" and I would go broke in the persuit of that goal. Soon after I limited my collection to the 3-4 areas I enjoy the most.

    I currently collect Foreign Chips, Sample Chips, Vintage Vegas Chips and "T" Mold chips. as it turns out, I have litterally thousands of chips that dont fit into my collections from my early lack of direction.
    Not only is the cost prohibitive in not limiting your field of collecting but another downside is that you may naver feel the accomplishment of Finishing a collection.

    If your goal is to collect $1 chips from every Las Vegas casino open today, that is a goal that can be reached.

    People collect all types of chips and Tokens. Some collect by Molds, Some by Denomination and some by location. Others get even more specific like chips and tokens with pictures of say fish or birds.

    If you try and limit your collecting to one or just a few fields, overall you will find a lot more enjoyment in your collection.

    Keep tuned for more tips of the day every day (Until I run out....)
    If those more experienced collectors would like to see me discuss something, please email me rather than post on the board and I promise I will work it in as soon as I can.

    Thanks and Happy Chipping,

    Doug "Cigarman" Smith
    Proud member of the CC&GTCC LM-3209-147

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    Newbie Tip of the Day #4 !!!!!!!!!!!!

    Never use your credit card at a strip club.


    OOps, wrong chat board tip of the day. Sorry Jim Kruse, I spilled the beans on my tip of the day for your Blog.....

    The REAL Tip of the day #4

    Use the Price guides as a Guide and Referance .

    All too often I see Ebay sellers quote the priceguides in order to sell thier chips. They usually quote either the Chip Rack Or the Campiglia & Wells Book and seem to choose the book that prices thier particular chips the highest.

    Unfortunately the Price Guides are just that..... GUIDES.

    Guides like this tend to be obsolete the minute they are printed and even sooner in some cases.

    Dont get me wrong, I applaud the authors of these books and credit them all for the growth of our hobby today. However the information that goes into the book was only valid at the time it was written down.

    Chip & Token Collecting is an ever changing enrironment. New finds are made every day and there are litterally tens of thousands of chips and tokens out there that have yet to be discovered in someones basement or attic.

    So, just because something is listed in a guide as having a value of $100 and a rareity of R-9 does not mean that is the case today.
    While the guidebooks are an incredible resource for information on date ranges, molds, denominations available and yes even a good referance point on prices, use these printed prices carefully.
    Keep looking for more Tips of the day and happy chipping to all !!!!!!!

    Doug "Cigarman" Smith
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    Newbie Tip of the Day #5 !!!!!!!!!!!!

    Be an Informed Buyer.


    In this ever changing world of chip & token values this is harder than it seems. However the more information you are armed with, the better off you will do on your future purchases.

    There is nothing worse that buying what you thought was an R-10 chip worth $500 and later finding out that there was a box recently found and they are actually worth closer to $50 now. Believe me it has happened to all of us including the most seasoned collectors.

    While this situation can never be completely avoided there are some things you can to to limit your exposure to this problem.
    How do you learn what has changed since the guides were written? I don't know every way, but here are a few:

    1) Use the tools available to you on [​IMG] . Search descriptions for similar items to see if others have been sold and for what price. Search past histories of that seller to see if maybe he has sold that same chip before and maybe even numerous times before. Chances are if that seller has sold 5-10 of that same chip then it is no longer the rarity that is shows in the guides......

    2) Watch for posts on this board. Many times people post questions about recent finds and many of those are discused on threads right here.

    3) Ask Questions. Both of the seller as well as right here on the board. There is a multitude of knowledge right here on the board and many times you can be made aware of "finds" before you shell out big bucks on an item. You may also ask the seller how many he has for sale?

    4) Try and deal with CC&GTCC members if possible. Those members are regulated by the code of ethics and should be held to those accordingly. It is against the code of ethics to withold information on a find from less knowledgable chippers in the effort to make additional profit. I know some will argue this point with me as there are a lot of members who are in "Business" to make a profit, but far more often than not, you will get better information from a member than you will elsewhwere.

    5) Use the Guide Books. As stated before, you them as a guide and not a final price point, but they are a great place to start.
    The more informed you are, the less chance you will be taken advantage of on a chip or token and the more pleasurable your collecting experience will be.

    Keep ypour eyes and ears peeled for more Tips of the day coming tomorrow.

    Doug "Cigarman" Smith
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    Newbie Tip of the Day #6 !!!!!!!!!!!!

    Attend the Convention.

    I can't stress enough what a joy it is to attend a convention for both new and well seasoned collectors.

    I probably collected chips myself for several years before I found out about the club and the yearly convention. The first convention I attended was the last one at the old Aladdin. The very first thought that popped into my mind was WOW !!!!!!!!

    Chips, Tokens and casino collectables everywhere, as far as the eye can see. If your looking for something in particular, the convention is the place to find it, or at least the people who know where to find it.
    Then there are all the club functions starting with Greg Susongs annual Early Bird get together at the Palms. This function gets bigger and bigger every year and is a great way to meet fellow chippers. How about professionally run club Poker and Blackjack tournaments which are first class.

    Then there are the seminars which seem to get better every year and have a variety of fantastic information for collectors at every level.
    The Banquet is always a blast and whether you choose a table with other friends or just sit with people you never met, you are sure to have a great time and meet new people.

    On a side note, I personally dont usually care for the food, but that's not why I come to the banquet anyway.....

    Trade Sessions, Trade Sessions and More Trade Sessions. The trading rooms are always full of others that love to trade chips. This is a great way to get rid of your extras and add new chips to your collection without any cost.

    How about the club auction? Great deals to be had the last few years and something you dont want to miss.

    However the number one reason I go to the convention every year is the people. I have made literally thousands of chipper friends over the years. Many of them live far away from me and although I speak with them every once in a while by email or on the chip board, the convention is where we meet. I remember back to my first convention where I finally met in person dozens of people I had known for years thru mail trades but never met in person. Its the one time a year where you and your friends can get together for dinner, a drink at the Splashbar, or just to talk chips.

    The people is the reason everyone should go. To meet your old friends as well as make new ones. You can meet face to face with some of the most important and influential people in our hobby. Meet the authors of the books you use all the time. The convention is a perfect place to ask questions and get answers as the amount of knowledge on the bourse floor is unimaginable !!!!!

    I have just attended my 9th convention is a row and cant imagine EVER missing one. Once you experience this for yourself, you will quickly understand.

    Keep your eyes and ears peeled for more Tips of the day coming tomorrow.

    Doug "Cigarman" Smith
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    Ok, we have now hit 6 subjets that very few people disagree with and that means....


    Time for controversy !!!!!!!!!!!!

    Newbie Tip of the Day #7 !!!!!!!!!!!!

    Condition, Condition, Condition

    A friend of mine told me something nearly 10 years ago that comes to mind. He said the 3 most important factors in the value of a chip was "Condition, Condition, and Condition"

    There are a lot of collectors who will disagree with me on this one and I can honestly understand a lot of thier reasons.

    Until 7-8 years ago not many of us "Chippers" cared much about the condition of the chips or tokens they collected. It was more important to us the history behind the chip or where it was from. It wasnt until the Campiglia & Wells (C&W) book came out that people could actually see a range of prices based on conditions.

    Since then we can clearly see the trend of values based on condition as a HUGE factor in its selling price.

    I can draw on the comparison to Baseball cards again since I experienced that one first hand. When I was younger I was thrilled to pick up a Willie Mays rookie card at a bargian price with one corner torn nearly completely off. At that time it was priced about 2/3 book price for a nice one. Only years later when grading came into full swing were the variation in values between the grades magnified. While a Near Mint card might sell for $50, a gem mint 10 card might sell for 10x, 20x, or even 100x that value.

    I see the same thing happening to chip and token values. The items in truly mint shape are bringing amazing prices compared to those lesser condition ones.

    Now, I am NOT saying collect only new condition chips as I have some real dingers in my own collection. One of my favorite chips is the old Silver Palace chip in the bottom of the scan shown. This chip is worn, drilled and even cracked !!!!, however its STILL one of my favorites.

    What I am saying though is I am constantly looking to upgrade my collection with better chips. If I had the choice of a better condition chip at a little more cost, I would choose the better condition one.

    Now for the contravercial part...... Many people actually like the wear on a chip. The argument there is that the wear, grime, chips and even cigarette burns give the chips characture. I can see the point as those chips showing wear carry the history of that chip with them. That fact I cant argue.

    The point I CAN argue however is that the more valuable of 2 chips will nearly always be the one in better condition.

    Keep your eyes and ears peeled for more Tips of the day coming tomorrow.

    Doug "Cigarman" Smith
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    I wasn't planning this tip till further down the line, but I thought I should just throw it in now as it related to yesterdays tip on Condition.

    Newbie Tip of the Day #8 !!!!!!!!!!!!

    Beware of Old Chips in Unused Condition

    There is an old saying that I heard many years ago that goes, "Show me a mint condition chip and I will show you a box of them !!!!"

    What that means is that usually when there are chips found in pristine condition, that means that they were never on the tables and chances are, there are more in that condition (And maybe a LOT more). More often thank not, when a 20+ year old chip shows up in perfect condition, it came directly out of a box. What this means is that the chip in question may not be as rare as it once was thought to be.

    Now this information is not always accurate as there can be several other reasons for a "Mint" condition chip or token to surface. What if it was owned by a Casino Manager and was stuck away in a drawer for many years, or possibly a sample that somehow managed to escape being notched.

    I also wanted to mention that this tip does not apply to recent chips as one would expect last years Hooters or Hard Rock chip to be in perfect shape. I am specifically referring to those older chips that should have seen a lot of table play.

    All I am trying to say, is be weary of chips you see on Ebay for sale in "New" condition as many times those chips and tokens are about to become a lot less rare than the guide books tell you they should be.

    Keep your eyes and ears peeled for more Tips of the day coming tomorrow.

    Doug "Cigarman" Smith
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    Newbie Tip of the Day #9 !!!!!!!!!!!!

    Look Into Joining a Local Club


    With the growth of Casino Collecting there has become many local clubs pop up across the US.

    Many of these clubs have monthly or quarterly meetings that are well attended by others in your area that share your same interests. A lot can be learned from local clubs as can be seen in my local club in Houston. The Greater Houston chapter meets monthly and has approximately 50 current members (Although admittedly it is difficult to get more than a dozen at a time to attend a meeting). Most of the members of our club specialize in Illegal Galveston and Texas chips and memorabilia as is not surprising seeing where we are located.

    I personally have never collected Galveston chips and prior to joining the club never even thought about this area. However I have gained a lot of knowledge about these chips that I never would have gained has I not been associated with the Houston Club.

    I believe you can find similarities within many of the local clubs.
    Now not all members in these clubs are CC&GTCC members, and in fact you don’t even have to be a member to attend our monthly meetings. At these meetings we talk, trade and show Chips Tokens and general casino and gambling memorabilia.
    There are currently 11 specialized clubs located all over the US listed on the CC&GTCC Webpage at the following link, although I am sure there are even more unlisted ones.

    http://www.ccgtcc.com/localclubs.html


    Take a look and see if there is one near where you live. Then attend a meeting and make some new friends, you will be happy you did.

    Keep your eyes and ears peeled for more Tips of the day coming tomorrow.

    Doug "Cigarman" Smith
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    Newbie Tip of the Day # 10

    Do Onto Others !!!!!

    You have heard the old saying before, but it applies to our hobby more than you might think !!!!

    Although there are probably many thousands of casino Chip & Token collectors worldwide and nearly 4,000 currently in the National club, this is still considered a small group of folks.

    We are a tightly knit community and look out for one another better than any other group of collectors that I have ever been associated with.

    The fact is, If you screw a Chip or Token collector, you better watch out for the repercussions as they will be sure to follow. In this hobby more than any other it is best to adopt a policy of doing onto others as you would expect them to do onto you. Most collectors and dealers have been friends with each other for some time and when a deal goes bad, word travels fast.

    Many people see this first hand on the Chipboard [thechipboard.com] as when one of our friends is attacked, numerous people come forward to their side. The worst thing you can possibly do for your career in Chip & Token collecting is cheat someone on a deal. Our membership remembers those who thrive on bad business practices and are more than happy to let everyone else know.

    On the flip side, if you treat people fair word of that will get around also. In this business, your actions speak louder than words and if you treat people right, you will go far. However tread them poorly and you will have a hard time finding others that will help you with your collection.
    Keep your eyes and ears peeled for more Tips of the day coming tomorrow.

    Happy chipping to all
    Doug "Cigarman" Smith
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    Newbie Tip of the Day # 11


    Review the Club Code of Ethics.

    Related to Tip of the day #10 (Do Unto Others), this is a very important tip and one reason you will find what you do within our organization. CC&GTCC members are bound by the "Club Code of Ethics" as listed at this link:

    http://www.ccgtcc.com/code_of_ethics.html

    All members should take the time to review these codes and understand their meaning as they are all intended to further the hobby and the future of chip & token collecting.

    Of particular interest to me were items #7, #9 and #10 which deal with selling and trading chips honestly and protect others from being taken advantage of. This is one reason I feel so strongly about buying and trading chips with Club members over Non-Members.

    Not that non members are untrustworthy, but that when someone is a member they should be expected to uphold the ethics that they have agreed to in their membership.

    Now some will argue that not everyone follows these rules. However I believe that there should be no exceptions. Anyone that does not follow these rules should be subject to appropriate disciplinary action, PERIOD.
    It is my belief that all rules found within the Code Of Ethics benefit the Club, Its members and the hobby as a whole.

    Make sure you understand them and follow them to the best of your ability as those who do will get much more enjoyment out of this hobby.

    Keep your eyes and ears peeled for more Tips of the day coming tomorrow.
    Happy chipping to all

    Doug "Cigarman" Smith
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    Jim, why'd you graveyard this? This was a fantastic idea!

    (maybe make it "Tip of the Week instead "of the Day" so as not to run into missed days?)
     
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    Newbie Tip of the Day # 12


    It is the Sellers or Traders responsibility to insure delivery when mailing packages.

    The next few days I will be talking about something most of us are involved with, Mailing Chips & Tokens.

    Every once in a while something you mail out never reaches its intended recipient. There are some varying opinions among collectors as to who's responsibility it is to insure delivery.

    Some will argue that if they have proof of mailing from the post office that they should be relieved of any responsibility. It is my opinion though that the sender is almost always responsible to make sure that the package arrives with very few exceptions. From what I have heard from others by email and on TheChipBoard this has become the common feeling among "Chippers".

    Unless you sell something to someone who specifically requests that it not be insured, it is my belief that the burden of delivery resides with the sender. What this means is that if you mail out chips or tokens to someone thru a trade or sale, and that package never makes it, it is your responsibility to either offer a refund, or replace the chips.

    Now while this doesn’t happen very often, you can be sure that it will eventually happen to you, especially if you mail a lot of stuff. I have personally mailed over 1,000 packages through out the world and have only had a few packages come up missing.

    So how can a seller or trader protect himself ? There are a few things you can do.

    1) Always insure valuable packages. While I don’t usually spring for insurance on cheaper replaceable items, I will always properly insure packages valued at over $100.

    2) Try and maker sure you know your trading partner or at least that he or she has a decent reputation. If you watch the Chip Board, those who have problems with continuously loosing chips in the mail are often called out as risks.

    3) When selling chips (especially expensive ones), always require that the buyer pay for insurance, unless it is already covered in the price or the purchaser specifically declines it. Thus way you are protected as you did all you could to make sure they were covered.

    Much like the Tip #11 from yesterday, if you Do Unto Others like you would expect them to do onto you, you will go far in this hobby. Its is much better to replace a chip and keep a trading partner for life than it is to do nothing.

    Keep your eyes and ears peeled for more Tips of the day coming tomorrow.
    Happy chipping to all,

    Doug "Cigarman" Smith
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    Newbie Tip of the Day # 13


    Package Your Chips & Tokens for Mailing Well.

    Today's tip is related to yesterdays as it also deals with mailing packages.

    If you plan on building your Chip and Token collection you can be sure that you will be both sending and receiving a LOT of packages in the coming years. There is nothing worse that anxiously awaiting that special item for your collection only to find it arrived damaged or even worse, you received a package without contents.

    Believe me, it has happened to me before and sometimes no matter what you do, there is no way to prevent to Postal monster from devouring your chips…….

    So, what can we do to make sure this happens as little as possible ???

    Take extra care in packing your mailings.

    There are varying opinions on what is the best way to mail Chips & Tokens and if you have been collecting for a while you have probably seen your chips arrive in a variety of packaging. The most common and well accepted form of packaging is the Kraft Bubble Envelope. These can usually be found relatively cheap at your local Sams club or even cheaper searching EBay or from a distributor.

    One of the forms that I use is that I reuse bubble mailers that are sent to me by cutting them up and packing the chip inside the bubble portion before placing it inside a business envelope. I always take the edges of the envelope for added support.

    Many people like to take the chip to the inside of the bubble envelopes and that prevents it from sliding around and possible breaking thru the edge.

    There are also specialty packing materials like Safe-T-Mail which is a cardboard product that has an adhesive center and is cut to fit inside either a regular or business envelope. These seem to work great but are more expensive than bubble mailers.

    With all these options to use there is just no excuse for sending a chip inside a plain white envelop without any protection. That is probably the worst thing you can do as many chips have been lost in the mail that way.
    If you are purchasing something from someone that is not a chipper, it is OK to suggest that they use proper packaging. Many non chippers just don’t know how damaging sending a chip thru the mail can be without padding.

    Whatever method you choose to use, the better you protect the item, the better chance it will reach its intended recipient in the same condition you sent it.

    Keep your eyes and ears peeled for more Tips of the day coming tomorrow.
    Happy chipping to all,

    Doug "Cigarman" Smith
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    Newbie Tip of the Day # 14


    Make Lots Of Friends

    I have been thinking about when to post this and I think now is the appropriate time.

    There are fewer things more important in the hobby of Chipping than making friends. Not only is it great to have someone to talk about your favorite hobby with but friends are people you can share with, you can count on for a helping hand, they can cheer you up when your down, they can help you find that special chip you have been looking for forever and they can ohh and ahhh over your latest finds.

    There are few things that I enjoy more than finding a surprise package on my doorstep containing chips that I had no idea were headed my way from a friend who knows I collect samples or foreign chips.

    Now I see a lot of bickering going on in the past few years on the Chip Board. Many times it comes from new posters that aren't quite familiar with the ways of the old timers and veterans of the board. A lot of times they just don’t understand the reasoning's behind why things are done they way they are and the history behind that.

    I am not saying that change is bad, I am just saying that before a new poster to the chipboard jumps in and starts making waves, at least take a few minutes to know the people. Yes, some people are brash and don’t understand why they should conform to the ways of others. I am not asking people to do that, I am just saying before you burn too many bridges, make sure you have an escape route.

    My father used to use a phrase that I often think of. He used to say you can catch more bees with honey than you can with vinegar.
    What I mean by that is that you don’t have to become a robot and do what others think is right and it is fantastic to come up with new ideas and different thoughts on subjects. However if you change your approach a little more to be less antagonistic, you might find your comments better accepted.

    I know that some people will take my comments above the wrong way and I apologize for that. What I am trying to get across is the fact that you don’t need to be everyone's best friend, but the less people in this hobby that dislike you the more enjoyable the hobby will be for you.

    There is no need to change who you are, just how you handle the situations………

    Now how is that for a depressing Tip of The Day ????

    Keep your eyes and ears peeled for more Tips of the day coming tomorrow.
    Happy chipping to all,

    Doug "Cigarman" Smith
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    Tip Of the Day #15 -


    Start a Database of your Collection Early

    This is a great tip that I am guilty of not following myself. Many people keep very good track of their collections.

    There are several Databases managers out there that do an excellent job of tracking chips and can be used as a checklist to make sure you know what chips your missing. The one I am most familiar with and seems to be one of the most popular is Terry Shaffer's "Collectors Assistant".
    Although I don’t use the program myself I hear nothing but rave reviews about this tracking system and it can be found in any of Terry's posts or at the following link http://www.happychipper.com/

    There are a lot of other tracking programs out there on the market as well.

    I have also seen many other methods of keeping track of your collection. Some people who collect just Nevada chips a guide book like the Chip rack as a checklist and mark on it what chips they have. The same can be code with guide books on Florida Chips, California Chips, Illegal Chips, Tokens, Slotcards or just about anything else that has a book published.

    I have also seen some pretty ingenious ways that people keep track of their collections at the convention as I have seen several people bring their laptop computers with them where they have scans of everything they own. Others use color copies made into books. I have even seen several collections on ipods and even iphones though I can't even imagine how much work it took to get everything scanned in to them……

    Bottom line is, the better you can track your collection, the better chance you have of not coming home from the convention with stacks of chips you find out you already own. This is something that seems to happen to me every year.

    At least I keep my traders fully stocked with all those chips I thought I didn’t have !!!!!!!!!!

    Keep your eyes and ears peeled for more Tips of the day coming tomorrow.
    Happy chipping to all,

    Doug "Cigarman" Smith
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    Newbie Tip Of the Day #16 -


    Shop Around for your purchases

    One of the first things I noticed at the very first convention I attended in Vegas was that many dealers had the same chips on their tables with vastly different prices. A chip may be priced at one dealers table for $50 while just a few tables down would be priced at $10.

    The same can be said for Ebay. I consistently see the same chip or token bringing huge price swings on any given day. I am sure we have all seen a chip go unsold at a "Buy It Now" price of $25 when that exact same chip just sold in a highly competitive bidding war for double that.

    There are many reasons for this disparity in prices among sellers and here are a few :

    1) The Price Guides are not meant to set definitive prices. In fact many of the chips are priced differently within the different Books. Some e people feel that the prices in the book are too low because the books are a few years old. Others feel that there are now more known than when the books came out so the chips should be prices less.

    2) Conditions vary among the chips. Some people place a HUGE value on condition while to others its not as important. One dealer might discount a chip a few dollars because of a small rim nick while another might be willing to cut the price in half.

    3) One of the most important factors in determining price (If not the most important) is what does that dealer have into the cost themselves. If I personally paid $100 for a chip it would be difficult for me to part with it for less than that. Another person with that same chip may have only paid $50 for it and therefore a price of $75 represents a 50% profit, while to me that would have been taking a loss.

    So the lesson here is don’t buy the first thing you see at a convention. Take your time to shop the tables and find your best deals.

    Keep your eyes and ears peeled for more Tips of the day coming tomorrow.
    Happy chipping to all,

    Doug "Cigarman" Smith
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    Newbie Tip Of the Day #17 -


    Don’t be afraid to make an offer

    Directly related to my Tip Of The Day # 16, this is another tip that works best at conventions.

    For me, there are very few chips where I have a fixed price point set. I am negotiable on just about everything whether it be a trade or an outright sale. One of the tips I employ all the time at chip shows is that if I see something I want but feel that it is overpriced I make an offer. More often that not, if your offer is a reasonable one it will be accepted and both you and the seller will be happy.

    Now please don’t take this as an invitation to make a deal on everything you purchase as there are some dealers like Saturn salesman who already price their chips and tokens as low as possible and just cant work anything better.

    Another reason for not being able to make a deal is some dealers are selling consignment chips where they are obligated by the consigners to sell for the requested price and no less.

    While it is perfectly alright to make an offer on anything, please have the courtesy to restrict this offering to making only reasonable offers. If you see someone selling an item priced at $100 is it simply unreasonable to offer them $20 for it.

    Not only will you most likely not be able to purchase something with an unreasonable offer, you will generate ill will with that person which is definitely something you don’t want to happen.

    Keep your eyes and ears peeled for more Tips of the day coming tomorrow.
    Happy chipping to all,

    Doug "Cigarman" Smith
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