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'New poll finds nearly 75% of Americans oppose ban of Internet gambling'

Discussion in 'Home Poker and the LAW' started by Midnight Rose, Apr 5, 2006.

  1. Midnight Rose

    Midnight Rose Well-Known Member

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    [Summary: Politicians should stay the hell away from citizens. We don't need no stinkin' Nanny State!]

    From pokerlistings.com:

    New poll finds nearly 75% of Americans oppose ban of Internet gambling

    1:35 PM, Tuesday, April 4, 2006
    by Lianne Elias

    The Poker Players Alliance, a pro-poker grassroots organization with more than 20,000 members in the United States, renewed its objection to online gambling prohibition today, highlighting a new survey by ICR market research, an independent market research supplier, which finds nearly 75% of Americans oppose moves by Congress to ban Internet poker. The results of the March 29, 2006, survey have been re-printed below.

    "The new poll results are a clear illustration of the public's feelings on this issue. Simply put, people don't want their member of Congress telling them what they can and cannot do in their own home -- especially when it comes to a game that's as all-American as jazz or basketball," said Michael Bolcerek, president of the Poker Players Alliance.

    At a roundtable panel discussion held by the Poker Players Alliance today, three of poker's most famous faces -- Howard Lederer, Chris "Jesus" Ferguson, and Greg "Fossilman" Raymer – together with Radley Balko of the Cato Institute and Bolcerek, each explained why efforts to ban online gambling are misguided.

    "We are here today to speak about the growing threat to poker as it relates to the online game," said Bolcerek. "We are here to defend the game and express our opposition to Congress' efforts to kill the sport and restrict our civil liberties."

    Survey Questions & Results:

    Question 1: "Should the federal government prevent Americans from playing poker?"
    Yes No Don't Know Refused
    5% 90% 4.5% 0.4%

    Question 2: "Should the federal government prevent Americans from playing poker in Las Vegas?"
    Yes No Don't Know Refused
    5.5% 90.7% 3.3% 0.5%

    Question 3: "Should the federal government prevent Americans from playing poker in Casinos on Indian Reservations?"
    Yes No Don't Know Refused
    8.3% 86.6% 4.6% 0.5%

    Question 4: "Should the federal government prevent Americans from playing poker for charitable fundraisers?"
    Yes No Don't Know Refused
    8.1% 86.9% 4.4% 0.6%

    Question 5: "Should the federal government prevent Americans from playing poker on the Internet?"
    Yes No Don't Know Refused
    18% 74.2% 7.4% 0.4%

    Question 6: "Should the federal government prevent Americans from playing poker in the privacy of your own home?"
    Yes No Don't Know Refused
    3% 94.7% 1.8% 0.5%

    Question 7: "Do you believe the federal government should be managing Americans' gambling behaviors on the Internet?"
    Yes No Don't Know Refused
    26.9% 66.1% 6.4% 0.6%

    The results of this survey reflect a randomly selected group of 964 adults. Those selected were read a series of questions and asked to respond with "yes," "no," or "I don't know."

    For more information on the Poker Players Alliance, please see Poker Players Alliance Fights For Poker's Rights.
    http://www.pokerlistings.com/poker-players-alliance-fights-for-pokers-rights-1386
     
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  2. zbme

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    I would be for banning internet gambling if all other live gambling was legalized.
     
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  3. Midnight Rose

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    I'm against the government sticking their nose into anything I decide to do with my time and money. And I say that as a person who has never done any form of online gambling to date.
     
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    thanks for posting this. quite interesting to read the response rates on the individual questions.

    gw-
     
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    Thanks (and thanks also for the other note you sent). I agree that the individual responses were interesting, especially as concerns the difference in percentages between those who wanted no inteference with private (live) gaming, vs those who seemed to not mind it so much if the government got involved in internet gaming.

    Sorry, but a government that thought the CAN-SPAM act was A Good Thing is the last group of folks I trust with what I do on the 'net.
     
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    I dislike government control of most things however if I had to choose which was legal ... I would choose live poker versus online.
     
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    Um, who conducted the poll, and who did they poll?
     
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    Preach on Bruther!!
     
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    online poker, and slots/BJ/Craps/video poker IMHO are 2 different things..

    Online poker, you have a chance at your own odds to win or lose. But in casino games your living to house rules and a high house win percentage.

    They should ban casino games, Or at least make the Online sites pay a Fee to helps schools, or poor people eat, or something..

    kinda OT, But im bothered by all these ban threads :\
     
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    "...highlighting a new survey by ICR market research, an independent market research supplier"

    "...a randomly selected group of 964 adults. "
     
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    But you should know the odds going in if you are any kind of serious gambler. At least when it comes to BJ/Craps & VP. Some VP machines pay back a theoretical 100%+ (fullpay dueces wild for instance) and can be spotted easily by looking at the paytable.

    Who would tax these sites to help schools, etc? They aren't under US jusrisdiction. Usually Costa Rica or Turks & Caicos. And they certainly aren't going to do anything to hurt their customers. Much to their dismay, the US government does not actually have jurisdiction over the entire world.

     
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    Please clarify: are you bothered by the content of the threads ("I hate the stupid moves to ban this honorable game!") or by the fact that these threads exist ("I don't want to hear about another ban, ever!")? If it's the former, I feel your pain. If it's the latter, not hearing about the things that can have a direct impact on your pasttime/hobby/lifestyle may be comforting, but it doesn't help you to do anything about the threats - which is the point of my posting them in the first place.

    I did offer in the past to not post these, if they weren't welcomed here. I've gotten feedback that says they're welcomed, but I don't mind stopping if more readers feel the way you do.
     
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    And just how does the US Congress believe it's going to control an on-line industry that NOT ONE of the businesses are located in the United States?

    They can ban having them based here, but I can't see it even being possible to prevent people from any type of on-line gambling.
     
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    One way is to threaten/put pressure on/coerce ISPs to block sites. And in doing so, the hypocrite congresscritters will mimic Chinese officials who they have criticized for doing the same thing. But since when has that stopped politicans from doing something stupid?
     
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    You are SO right about politicians doing stupid stuff...

    I personally think it's hilarious when the US treats the internet like its "theirs" and they threaten that they can do whatever they want with it, let alone actually control it.

    That child (the 'net) has grown up, left home, and is now plowing through downtown Tokyo using subway trains as dental floss. You can never go home again.

    The internet belongs to NO ONE and no matter how smart the US Gov geeks think they are, there is always going to be some 15 year old kid in India with a wireless laptop that can break the codes and re-route 1000 IP addresses back through the high orbit sattelite while picking the dirt from between his toes with the other hand.
     
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