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Discussion in 'Chip Breakdowns' started by Shawn15p, Oct 30, 2015.

  1. Shawn15p

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    I want to host 20K tournaments with 1 rebuy OR add on. Rebuy for 20K in chips and Add on for 10 K in chips. Tournaments between 12-16 people usually on the lower end of that but 16 does happen.

    Current break down

    T25-152
    T100-152
    T500-77
    T1000-152
    T5000-77
    T25000-20
    T100000-20

    I want to add on between 100-300 chips. Thinking right now adding 200 total to make it
    T25-200
    T100-200
    T500-80
    T1000-250
    T5000-80
    T25000-20
    T100000-20

    Thoughts? Is there a better way to go about this?? Do i need more 500's and less 1000's ???
     
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    anyone ???
     
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    You might consider go with 25K; get rid of the T100K and use the T25K for rebuys. The set break down can be like this for 16 hands:

    T25x200
    T100x250
    T500x120
    T1000x200
    T5000x40
    T25000x20
    Total chips=830
    Total Value=T990,000

    Break down for each player is:
    T25x12 (=T300)
    T100x12 (=T1200)
    T500x7 (=T3500)
    T1000x10 (=T10000)
    T5000x2 (=T10000)
    T25000x0
    Total chips=43
    Total value=T25000

    Use the extra T100s to color up the T25s, and the T1000s to color up the T100s and T25s.
     
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    Shawn, that looks very workable. I don't think you need more 500s and you don't need less 1,000s. You might need another 20 5,000s, though with some 100,000s, you might not. Here's how many I think you need of each denom:

    25 12 192
    100 7 160
    500 2 64
    1,000 13 240
    5,000 3 96
    25,000 0 20

    First number is value, second is how many either starting or color up, and third number is total needed.

    If it were me, I'd give them 12-7-2-13-1 to start, and give them 2x5,000 for add-ons. Hopefully some would be able to use 25,000s by then. If not, you will be short 5,000s, but I think it's workable.
     
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    Thanks guys ---The break down I was thinking was

    T25-12
    T100-12
    T500-3
    T 1000-12
    T5000-1

    That would leave me with this left over for the 1 add on or re buy (for max 16 person tourney)


    T25-8
    T100-8
    T500-32
    T 1000-58
    T5000-64
    T25,000-20
    T100,000-20
     
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    A few thoughts. With your current set, you could (barely) accommodate 16 players with 10 add-ons / rebuys. I doubt you'd use more than that unless you had one massive chip leader, and I'd then colour them up with the 25k's first to free up other chips for more rebuys/add-ons.

    Initial buy-in
    T25 x 8 (200) (total of 128 chips used, 24 left over)
    T100 x 8 (800) (total of 128 chips used, 24 left over)
    T500 x 4 (2000) (total of 64 chips used, 13 left over for colour-ups)
    T1000 x 7 (7000) (total of 40 left over for colour-ups)
    T5000 x 2 (10000) (total of 40 left over)
    Total : 20000

    Rebuy
    T5000 x 4 (20000) and make change at the table. Someone is going to be able to do it.

    I would NOT use T25 and T100 for rebuy / add-on. If I bought more of anything it would be T1000 and T5000 only to provide more flexibility for colouring up. That would also allow you to make the rebuys T1000 x 5 and T5000 x 3, which would reduce change making at the table.

    Hmmm...
    Increase the T500s to 100 total (23 more chips)
    Increase the T1000s to 200 total (48 more chips)
    Increase the T5000s to 100 total (23 more chips)

    Rebuys could then be T500 x 2, T1000 x 4, and T5000 x 3.

    And you could accommodate 16 buy-ins / 16 full rebuys without using any 25k chips.
     
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    "If it were me, I'd give them 12-7-2-13-1 to start, and give them 2x5,000 for add-ons."

    Yes, I forgot about the add-ons. you will need more T5000s for that.
     
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    All makes sense----I would just like more than 29 chips per person, would like at least 36 if possible
     
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    If your initial buy-ins and rebuys are 20K, then you don't need the T25Ks and T100Ks
     
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    They came with the set i bought---already have them

    I can use them when i have a tournament with no re buys
     
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    I forgot that you already have them.
     
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    The reason I didn't suggest 12 100s is because it doesn't leave you much to color up the 25s. Without know the blind structure, I don't know how important that is. While it is true that you can color up using higher value chips, I've found it easier and faster to color up with the next higher value. However, 12 100s is workable.
     
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    36+ chips per player? In that case...

    T25 x 12
    T100 x 12
    T500 x 5
    T1000 x 6
    T5000 x 2
    Total : 20k, 37 chips

    Rebuys : T1000 x 5, T5000 x 3 (5 and 1 for add-on)

    Chipset
    T25 x 200
    T100 x 200
    T500 x 100 (20 leftover after 16 buy-ins / 16 full rebuys)
    T1000 x 200 (24 leftover after 16 buy-ins / 16 full rebuys)
    T5000 x 100 (20 leftover after 16 buy-ins / 16 full rebuys)

    Note that you will never use all 16 rebuys, so you'd have extra T5000's from people using add-ons instead of rebuys. And you'd have enough T1000 and T5000 for colour-ups, especially once the 25k chips hit the table.
     
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