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Discussion in 'Chip Breakdowns' started by fivethous, Apr 7, 2015.

  1. fivethous

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    Hey guys I'm excited to be here and am loving the chip designs and talk.

    I aiming to get a set of chips that could be used for both .25/.25 and eventually .25/.50.

    I'm trying to figure out a breakdown for a 9-10 person game. I'd really appreciate any help you guys could provide! I look forward to going through this process with all of you.
     
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  2. luk_nuts

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    Lucky for you that I just did one recently for .25/.50 :)

    I dont know if you use the higher denominations (25,100,500,1000 as cents) or the smaller ones (.25,1,5 as dollars) so I will put both possibilities.

    1x $50 stack .25/.50 :
    8x 25 = $2
    13x 100 = $13
    5x 500 = $25
    1x 1000 = $10

    or

    8x .25 = $2
    18x 1 = $18
    6x 5 = $30

    Now for the .25/.25 I didnt do one, but I would probably take something like that:

    1x $25 stack .25/.25 :
    12x 25 = $3
    17x 100 = $17
    1x 500 = $5

    or of course 12x .25 ; 17x 1 ; 1x 5

    Depending on the size of your game, I would prepare 8 stacks like that (better more of course) and then order some more $5 and a few $25 for coloring up later in the game.


    Hope this will help you :)
     
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  3. Sal Bandini

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    For both games the only difference will be your total bank. Obviously the 50 cent game will play larger so you would want more high denomination chips for that one. In both games the $1 will be your workhorse chip, but more so in the 25 cent game. The amount of quarters for both will be the same, however.

    For 9-10 person 100 quarters is all that you will need. I say need becasue that is a minimum. Your group may not want to make change as often or you may have people raising in odd amounts, like $2.75. In that case you may want to get more quarters.

    You don't say how many chips you are looking to get or what the typical buy-in is and how much money is on the table at the end of the night. You need to determine that first. Also, what chips are you lookig at? Are they custom, or cheaper chips? You always want to buy more than you think you need, in case you game grows, or you lose or break a few. Better to get them now instead of paying again (plus shipping) or have the risk of them being discontinued.

    I would get (minimum):
    100 $0.25
    200 $1
    100 $5

    and maybe add in some $25

    or better:
    120-140 $0.25
    300 $1
    100 $5

    You may want more $5 and also get some $25, but again, I think it is better to get more and not need them than to buy too few and regret it.
     
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    Here is the break down I use and it works well with my 10 player cash game .25/.50c blinds with $40-$100 BUY-IN and rebuys:

    100 - $0.25
    100 - $1
    100 - $5
    40 (or20) - $25
    10 - $100, these hardly ever see felt.

    Each player at $100 buy-in gets 12 - $0.25, 12 - $1, 12 - $5, 1 - $25 (of course only 8 players get this, but I modify when needed as not ALL players buy-in for 100, some are 40 and 60).


    BTW, welcome to CT, have fun
     
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  5. Craig D

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    Whats the most money you have ever had in play?

    Is your workhorse chip $1 or $5?

    How many chips 500, 600, 800 1000?

    Then we can help
     
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    $20 or $25 chip?
     
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  7. fivethous

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    I appreciate the feedback, usually have buy ins anywhere from $10-$40. I'd say the most I've seen in this game at any point was when we had 7 guys and about $175 or so total in play.

    I didn't even really know where to begin in terms of starting stacks, total chip amounts etc.. I would like four colors as the game grows but right now I think .25/1/5 with $1 as my workhorse is probably the most accurate desceiption of this game.
     
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  8. Sal Bandini

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    Don't worry about starting stacks.

    Just get 100 quarters out there and then proceed with the $1.

    First $25 hand out the quarters and let them divide them among themselves.
     
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  9. Craig D

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    $175 in play with 25c blinds? All you need is 25c and $1s

    I recommend playing 5c10c blinds with a $10-$40 buy in

    Most people like to play 50-200 Big Blinds deep at No Limit Holdem
     
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    I like more chips…go figure! My starting stacks look like this for a $50 buy in:
    20 quarters
    20 $1.00
    5 $5
    for 10 players you need a 500 chip set in the following breakdown:
    200 quarters
    200 $1.00's
    100 $5.00's
    You will also need 10 to 20 $20.00 rebuy plaques. If you don't want to purchase the plaques then you can break the rack of $5.00's into 80 $5.00's and 20 $20.00's to round out your 500. This game sets up super easy since you are dealing with full barrels and quarter barrels. all the rebuys are made up of $5.00's or $20.00's and change is made from the table. This game is super easy to set up and manage…it works beautifully! Good luck and have fun!
     
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  11. JeromyinWV

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    Sounds like you might need to go a little heavier on the quarters at those stakes. Don't sound like there is a lot of big bets and your players would probably like more chips in front of them. It just depends on budget. A chip costs the same no matter the denomination so adding quarters can get expensive, I think something Like Lucky Dog suggested would work well for you. If you wanted to save money, you could get fewer quarters and more bigger chips. You might have to make change more but it depends on what you want.
    Something like this with 330 chips and 33 chips to a stack would work for 10 but it wouldn't wouldn't be as playable as something with more smaller denoms and it wouldn't hurt to have some extra just in case some get broken or come up missing.
    12 -$0.25 (120)
    12 - $1 (120)
    7 - $5 (70)
    2 - $25 (20)
     
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  12. TexRex

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    Five, I've been watching this thread. I'm not being critical of any other advice, but I think it would help if you shared a little more about things you would like. I personally prefer smaller stacks and more denoms. There are several reasons I prefer that:
    • It increases your flexibility to raise stakes;
    • You get more bang for your buying buck when you increase your overall bank;
    • There are fewer mistakes in counting generally there are fewer chips at the end (coming up short because you accidentally overpaid the first guy out creates problems)
    So my preference is not more than about 15 of a single denom per person, and usually just ten.

    I definitely agree with the comment about a $40 stack being more like a $.05 SB and not a $.25 SB. To me, a $.25/.50 game, players should be buying in for at least $50, and more likely $100 for no limit. Otherwise they won't have enough to play big hands.

    Here's my 700 chip set breakdown, and I even have $.01 chips (for $5 buy-in NLHE w/blinds starting at $.01/.02, but notice how few I have). I'd never expect to have the $.01 or $.05 chips and the $100 at the same game.

    $0.01 105
    $0.05 105
    $0.25 105
    $1.00 125
    $5.00 125
    $20.00 85
    $100.00 50

    I got 5 extras of each denom in case of loss or breakage, and a total bank of $7482.55. I went with $20s instead of $25s because I anticipate buying in with blocks of $20s and it's one bill, not $25s.

    I'm not saying my method is the best, but for me, I liked the flexibility I have to increase stakes without having mountains of chips. Some like mountains of chips, but you don't have the same flexibility and need more chips to get to the same bank.

    Some years ago, we had stacks of 25 of each denom we used in our buy-in. We had a lot of chips on the table. Then I bought a nicer set with more colors. We went with fewer chips per color per player. It was much easier to manage and didn't change the way the game played. Players adjusted quickly to only 10-12 per denom with higher value chips available.

    That's my experience.
     
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