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Missisippi cash game button straddle.

Discussion in 'Cash Game / Ring Game Advice' started by Bruce M, Mar 29, 2015.

  1. Bruce M

    Bruce M Well-Known Member

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    Missisippi cash game straddle. In Colorado black hawk casino they have a 1-2 blind with max bet 2-100. You can buy in for any amount. Occasionally they will let it run as Mississippi. Which means the button can straddle any time and if the button does not any one else can in order around the table. straddle amount is usually 5-10 and is live.

    With average 600 chip stacks I think I want to straddle the button every time and from no other position. Since I have position with the button I might as well get more money in the pot. What make it nicer is a lot of other people don't straddle there button as well.

    This game usually has a lots of action. not hard to take 300 to felt on over a grand in couple hours. The spread limit or 2-3 no limit is where I make all the money in a casino.

    Peoples thoughts on strategy for doing the button straddle. I like game that have straddles because I will do it a couple times under gun to soften my table image then tighten up. I am very comfortable with the strat in dealing with straddles.

    Just wondered if you had the option to straddle the button every time would you?
     
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  2. Sharpcr

    Sharpcr Active Member

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    We allow button straddles at our cash game and the guy who hosts ALWAYS straddles the button. Gets on my nerves! Especially when I am in the big blind every time he does it. We play low stakes though(50c $1 blinds) so it's not that big of a deal. I guess he does it to build the pot up some and maybe just because he can haha. We try to make our games compatible with everyone amd most everyone is ok with it so we allow it.
    And to answer you question no I would not straddle from the button. Don't see the point in it but to each his own.
     
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  3. justsomedude

    justsomedude Well-Known Member

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    I used to hate straddles, mainly because I didn't understand them. However, I've come to find they can be an effective tool for increasing the pot, obviously controlling the action, and as you described, trying to project a certain style of play or image at the table.

    To directly answer your question, I don't think I'd do it EVERY time if I had the option (I also play in BH)... the decision to straddle (wherever you are on the table) is based on previous hands, play at the table, prior action from other players, etc. To me, it's just another one of those typical poker decisions that must be made on a case by case basis. And I realize this gives you no help, whatsoever. :P

    From the "my two cents" realm, I will tell you this... players who I see straddling regularly/consistently EVERY chance they get seem to be more reckless/impatient, and I find I'm more inclined to challenge them. When I see a player straddling selectively, or at least with more care/intention, I take them a little more seriously. But that's just me.
     
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  4. chiptalker

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    Straddle always seems like a -EV move to me. I can see how a button straddle is the best of the straddle world since you have position after but even then I would rather look at my cards and raise if they are good and fold if they are bad. I get it now and then for fun but I see some guys doing it all the time and as mentioned they are usually not players leaving with money.
     
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  5. Bruce M

    Bruce M Well-Known Member

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    Straddling under the gun is a long term dumb move as I said I only do that early at a table if I am setting up someone to call me later.

    But if you can straddle on the button and its live with the position advantage I am inclined to believe its a good play. Especially if not everyone is doing it. I do agree though it depends on the table. If you have people calling the button straddle with the same hands they call the 2 dollar blind and you then can reraise with a strong hand it puts you in a good position. Also depends on if there people at the table that know how to play against a straddle. Are they willing to put a 15-30 raise on a 5-10 straddle with a normal raising hand. A lot of people wont and let they straddle see a free flop . So it all depends.

    Its a little loose play but if they rest of your game is tight in the long run I think it makes you money. The other issue though is a lot of times at a Mississippi table you have people looking for action and you have to be able to ride the waves. It does make for an exciting night.
     
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