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Le Paulson Noir Review

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  1. TenPercenter

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    <center>Le Paulson Noir Review
    by ASAM2006</center>

    Manufacturer: GPI (Gaming Partners International)
    Retailer(s): BuyPokerChips.com/ Sidepot Gaming Company
    Average Price: $1.25 - $1.32/ chip
    Material: Compression-molded clay


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    This is the latest Paulson offering to the home gaming market distributed exclusively by the Sidepot Gaming company on their "Paradise mold" designed by Kevin Finnegan aka "Fins" on Chiptalk. Sidepot calls this mold a "Boutique Paulson Mold" and controls the production and distribution. Le Paulson Noir is the maiden line on their Paradise mold so apparently there are plans to produce other chip lines later using this mold. I PM'd Stephan, a member of the CT community and CEO of Sidepot Gaming and asked him directly if it was true that Sidepot had exclusive rights to the distribution and sales of these new Paulsons and his reply was "That's correct. These are made for us exclusively by Paulson. The mold is ours. -Stephan "

    The new "Noir" inlay was designed by John Faulhaber aka "Johnny5" on Chiptalk and features color matched design elements with a smooth non textured plastic cover. The inlay was designed as an extension of the Paradise mold to match perfectly together; and they do. These are very classy looking chips.

    You will recognize the edge spot patterns on chips $25 through $5000 as being borrowed from the existing Paulson National Poker Series (review)chips. The $1 and $10 chips have been borrowed from the Pharaoh's Club line (review) and the $5 from the World Top Hat and Cane (review) line. The Noir $10 chips was based on the Pharaoh's Club 25c chip. The edge spots work well together in both the tournament chips and cash game chips and follow a casino like progression. Despite worries about production quality it was promised that this new Paradise mold would not have the same warping problems that plagued the World Top Hat and Cane Suited mold chips that came out in 2006. That ,for the most part, is true. The red $5 chips still have some stack instability problems but the other denominations stack like champs. Sidepot has promised an easy return or replacement policy for any warped chips. These are all 39mm chips with a hefty average weight of 10 grams.

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    Pros
    * great original mold and inlay design
    * an elegant and classy continental look
    * large numbers and super small $ signs
    * greater international appeal and versatility
    * chips handle, stack and sound great
    * outstanding edge spot especially on the $25, $100 and $500 chips
    * overall extremely high quality manufacturing
    * great hefty 10 gram weight

    Cons
    * very expensive chips for the home market
    * no 25 cent chips for cash games
    * a $10 blue chip with real color transfer problems
    * stacking instability with the $5 chips
    * lack of any shaped or texture inlays
    * a lack luster $5000 chip


    Price
    Sidepot offers sliding scale pricing ranging from $1.39/ chip for less than 300 chips to $1.32/ chip for 300-500 chips, $1.25/ chip for 500-1000 chips and $1.18/ chip for orders of 1000 or more. Sidepot also throws in $20 off sets of 300 or more for return customers.​
    Feel
    These chips feel smooth, soft and cool to the touch. Chips stacks feel like one unit. The 10 gram weight is ideal and every bit as good as any Casino clays . The great texture surface around the mold insures these chips do not slip or slide. The addition of a concentric circle on the outside of the mold adds to the appearance and feel of these chips. I just wish the inlays were shaped and textured. These chips shuffle well out of the box and get better the more you handle them. Since I had the National Poker Series chips I can tell you that over time these become buttery soft and jump into a stack when shuffled; great for chip tricks.​
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    These chips all form smooth uniform stacks with perfectly matched diameters and thickness within and between denominations for easy counting. There are no spinners. As mentioned $5 chips have stacking issues but even they will stack 100 high and do not spin. The other denominations stack like bricks no problems at 100-200 chips. All chip stacks, even the red $5 chips, stack to the exact same height at 100 chips. They are very uniform in thickness and diameter.​
    Sound
    These sound the closest to Casino Paulsons I've found on the home market. The clay is supposed to be identical to casino clay but my belief is that home Paulsons are softer than those made for casinos. They have the identical "clacking" sound of my Ambassador Paulsons. No "clinks" and no "clunks". The sound is slightly higher pitched than the metal flecked PNY Paulsons which I believe are the best sounding chips bar none. Overall, I give them a 9.75/10 in the sound department.​
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    The chips themselves are nothing new. Most are the identical spot pattern and clay of the highly under-rated Paulson National Poker Series. NPS chips were great chips but the inlay and mold left much to be desired. Paulson Noirs look classy and elegant. The Paradise mold and black inlay match perfectly and really add a richness to all the chips. The spot progression is a little off but if you consider the cash chips $1, $5, & $10 they fit. The tournament set $25, $100, $500, $1000 fit together but the $5000, my least favorite, seems out of place. The cash set and tournament set don't seem to flow seamlessly into each other but both are still really great looking chips sets and over all the entire set looks terrific. The inlay labels are properly centered without distortions or frayed edges and cannot be removed even with a sharp knife.



    Security/Originality
    These are "boutique" chips with an original mold and inlay distributed only by Sidepot. GPI requires minimum orders of 100,000 chips so these could never be as secure as custom made chips or those from a small group buy. Today, they are brand new to the market so a lot of people won't have them yet. Also, a lot of people won't buy them because they're over priced between $1.25 and $1.39 per chip and you can easily get casino chips on eBay or through Chiptalk ,for that matter, for less. Ordering through Sidepot does offer the advantage of getting the set and distribution of chips that you want and the ability to add on later if you desire. Still, even slightly over priced, I had to have them because of their looks and high quality.​
    Durability
    These are as durable as any home Paulson chips. The softness of the clay means they're easily broken in and will have color transfer problems. With normal home use they will remain new looking for years; maybe a lifetime. These chips clean up like champs with a 6 hour soak in Pipeshield, cloth wiping and poof they look new again.​
    Reviewers Comments
    Le Paulson Noir is a big improvement over the NPS Paulsons. The Paradise mold,the concentric outer ring and color matched black inlays are great additions to an already fantastic chip line. If I could have my way I want a 25 cent chip for cash games, a new and improved $5000 chip, a $5 chips without stacking issues, a $10 blue chip that didn't bleed and shaped and textured inlays. Still, all and all, I really like these chips and I'm glad I bought them.​
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  2. notsponsored

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    That's what I call a pretty nice set.
    Really very familiar to the Paulson T&C.
    I would love them with the BLACK SANDS inlay.
    What do you think?
     
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    If you can afford to order 100,000 of them, then you can get them done.
     
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    Oh, a very nice review of the Le Paulsons Noir.
    I really like the design of them!:)
     
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    I love that design, but I need a quarter chip! Any suggestions on how I could make this happen with this (or more likely a similar) set?
     
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    Use T25/T100/T500/T1000/T5000
    as 25c/$1/$5/$10/$50

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    PLUS then it doubles as a sweet T10,000 tournament set.

    Unrelated: Why can't I edit my posts in this thread? (No edit buttons)
     
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    :happy:I bought 500 Le Paulson Noir and they cost me almost 900AUSTRALIA DOLLARS but they worth the price, very good quality and very nice design, the only thing I have to complain is the size of the stack is less than the original casino size, the chip tray can actually fit 21 chips instead of 20, otherwise all perfect
     
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    Great Post thanks! I ordered a samples of these (10) just to shuffle them while i play online. It's the first time ive used real clay chips...I like them alot better than my walmart ones to say the least lol one thing I noticed is the color seems to come off real easy...it transfered to the other chip and even on the towel i have covering my desk..is that normal? Other than that i wish they were a little heavier..but they are head turners...I got them from side pot...they came in about three days. Anyway thanks again!
     
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    I own a set of 600 of these myself, and am about to buy another 400 from Sidepot as my tournaments and cash games are getting more popular. They are simply the classiest looking chips I have ever laid eyes upon. I love the black inlays and reckon the mold and colours suit it perfectly.

    At first I thought the $5000 chip was a bit out of place, but players seem to love it, and it's kinda grown on me. They are just sexy looking chips :stunned:

    I always have players commenting on how classy the chips look, and reckon the chips are the reason a lot of players have joined in my game.

    Expensive as, but so worth it for the quality and class.

    The weight is in fact quite heavy for real clay, and is the same as the weight of the chips in most top casinos.

    All Paulson chips have a size class of there own that is slightly smaller than regular chips, so you do have to buy trays that are for Paulson and not standard size. This is just another thing that adds uniqueness to the chips. The trays for paulson are easily found online.

    I've had them since July last year, and use them twice a week at least. For a while when they were brand new they did bleed colors a bit. It just takes a while for them to wear in, which is a normal thing for Paulson chips as they are meant to 'age' really well.

    I sincerely recommend these chips to anyone willing to spend a bit extra for perfect look, feel and sound.
     
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    I agree that these are amongst the nicest home chips going if you're not into fantasy casino chips, however, I have to dispute a couple of things. I can feel the difference in weight between a stack of 10 Noirs and a stack of 10 Paulson manufactured real Casino chips. The Noirs feel lighter. I can also hear the difference: they sound softer, less dense - a slightly less sharp clack. I can pick the Noirs out blindfolded every time usung either test. They're also more easily marked than real casino chips - I can dent the of a new Noir with a fingernail. These attributes are probably related - if Paulson are using a different material, or using lower pressure / temperature, or less production time for home chips than casino chips, it would affect all three. All that said, I still love the look of the Noirs, and wouldn't trade them for anything else currently on the market. If I was to criticise anything that Sidepot have control over, it would be that the mold could be bolder, and the edge spot progressions more carefully chosen.
     
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  12. Chris McLeod

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    anyone else notice that the stacks of 10's in the photos are the 25cent chips he has from another set(in the other pics). the paulson noir 10's do not have yellow on them. just an observation...

    Chris
     
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    Well, judging from this pic....

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    I would surmise that Ten had only a 20 count of the $10 blue Noirs for this review so he substituted the blue .25's for the big stack comparison shown here in this pic.....

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    In actuality, this...ahem, "review" was just a test of our "poker chip awareness." Ten tends to pull sneaky little moves like this from time to time just to make sure us Chip "experts" are on our toes! Congratulations on an astute observation Chris! You have now earned your "Chip Talk stripes! Welcome to our wonderfuly addictive community! :cool:
     
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    Beautiful looking chips... Someone tired of there noirs and want to sell them to a good home? :wink:
     
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    Does anyone know if these Noirs are still available for that same $1.25 price?
    thanks
    Schu
     
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    Nope. $1.49 at the Sidepot price. I just sold a bunch on FeeBay. Just keep checking in here, in the classifieds. You do see them, but not all that often. Awesome chips though.
     
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    Thank you... I am keeping my peeper open for a deal
     
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    Post is a little aged but... seen people asking about used sets and I have something to add.

    I have had this set over 2 weeks now and tho this Review is old, It is very accurate. I read the review before getting them it was the deciding factor (other then my budget).

    I did not get the blue 10's so I cant comment on them but the rest of the review was right on the money. I got this set as my only cash set (no heavy/abuse)

    For me, they are expensive "new"... So I went used. But now after owning them, I would have paid the full sticker price or at the very least understand why they cost what they do.

    If you are someone interested in a set of them you wont be disappointed. See if something pops up used first as previously advised by other members ... then hopefully try and sell off or trade to tweak your set.

    I went with the used route advice....(and I lucked out my 1000 ct set! they was unused, in the original Sidepot boxes!!!)

    But doing it this way I got 200 x 1's that I will never ever use!!:roll:

    I sure do hope to buy or trade the 200 "ones" to get more of the larger denominations in time.

    What I am getting at is, IMO....if you are the kind of person that cant wait for the perfect set counts (probably never happen)... DON'T go used!...I have no Idea how long it will take to finish my set off.

    So I used the advice (going used, to save money) and it worked fine LOL! I just cant say how hard it is to tweak a set (trade/sell/buy) them. Now were is the post about stage 2???! LOL:disappoi:

    Now after doing this "I say" If you got the money for a new set, just go new. Unless a used set deal is, really, really good.

    The colors on some sites of the chip look a little unsaturated... when you see them in person, they are nice and bright. A really nice looking soft chip, I am very pleased.

    Thanks for the Review!
     
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  19. Schu

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    thanks for that review... ever since ordering samples last year, I knew I would eventually be getting a set. I just purchased some from a couple folks and they should be coming in in a week or so, I can not wait.

    Personally, after seeing what sells on the secondary market and what folks are willing to pay per check, I think 1.49 is more than a an acceptable level per check.

    whiles its true the noirs were outsold by many other boutique checks, they are still very very nice, I love'em
     
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  20. Schu

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    MDM3D... I PM'ed you a message
    thanks
     
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