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ideas for venues (on a budget) a huge tourney?

Discussion in 'Home Game General' started by TenPercenter, Feb 10, 2015.

  1. TenPercenter

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    Among the game hosts of my local poker community, we all tend to have a game or two a year that peaks at the 75+ range for players. We are at a point now where we are turning players away due to capacity issues such as space, parking, and bathrooms. Running it in our houses is just getting too much.

    We have tried asking the players if anyone has a community clubhouse that can be used, and come up short. We also though about local civic centers run by the municipalities, but even those tend to be way too expensive (taking $1250+ out of the pot is just too much). Same issue for hotel ballrooms etc.

    Can you think of other ideas that we're just not coming up with? Other than finding one of the players that lives on a ranch and would have no capacity issues? (even then... the bathroom issue can still exist).
     
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    Maybe a church or school, if you can arrange it as a fundraiser?

    EDIT: Knights of Columbus halls can be affordable, too.
     
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    A local lodge?
     
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    Maybe a craft brewery? Some of the ones here have large tasting rooms that would be free during the week. They could run the bar to make some extra money.
     
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    I live in a smaller community, but many of the local legion halls around here can be rented for several hundred dollars http://www.legion.org/
     
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    Maybe a restaurant/bar? 75+ customers might get you a private room.
     
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    restaurant, find one that does not require a room charge but charges for food. specifically one that does homestyle or pizza.

    charge players X amount for food and add it to their buyin.
     
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    I second the American Legion idea. If you will be buying food and beverages from them during the tourney you could probably rent the hall for next to nothing.
     
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    Elks/Moose/VFW/KoC are all good options and may even net you some more players!
     
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    Most of the lodges around here have their own games. Not that that eliminates them.

    Got a quote today from a local winery. $1500 for the day, people fed. No alcohol/byob allowed.
     
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    We are starting to get a lot more of these lately, good idea.
     
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    In all honesty, the $1250 you were quoted for a private venue is not bad, especially when you consider that it will be a serious upgrade from your home game. At that cost, it's only a $16 add per player. Can you bring it up with your crew and see if they'd be up for increasing the buyins?

    Say you're at $100 now... why not just increase to $120 to cover costs and give yourself a private event space? At $120 ($100+$20), I doubt many people would complain about the increase, given the amenities they are getting in return. Everyone understands that improvements come with a price. Hell, the rake at my local casino is $25 out of $100 buyin and on top of that I have to drive 40 minutes to get there.

    PS: On the keep-it-cheap side, I second the suggestion of a VFW hall - many of them have huge spaces available for rent on the cheap. Also, don't forget to check Craigslist for "event space" or "event space rental".
     
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    If anyone that is interested in helping with hosting a game is a local community member try their community hall. I have had the opportunity and because I am a community member the cost was minimal. The only problem was that we had to be done and gone by midnight.
     
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    That actually makes it sound much more reasonable. This year we still had it in the host's house, then had food brought in for an extra $15 a person for those that chose to take part, and many did. This would be no different plus we have a comfortable location, parking, and restrooms.
     
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    We book with a local golf course during the off season when they can't even rent their space for weddings. We buy the food and alcohol from them and the room is free. I guess Texas doesn't really have an off season though.

    Oh the advantages of living in an area with snow are endless....
     
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    Why not a restaurant bar as suggested. Likely get the space for free, as they get 75 customers who will likely order food and drinks. Heck, there are a number of larger games that are hosted locally here that bring in 40+ players regularly and the bar pays the host $1/head. Easy peasy. Plus, then you get seating on site, just bring in tables.
     
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    Doing a game in Texas at any place that servers food and alcohol for pay is ileagal by letter of the law. No person can benifit from the game and the bar is making money on the game. I do this in colorado and it is a mostly private game. The club just moved us into a private room becuase they were getting inquiries about the game. If you are talking 75+ people in a bar,resturuant etc very dangerous. The free bar leagueS get away with it becuase there is no charge to the player.

    I would look for a club house that is in someone subdivision and have food brought in. I would also devide the cost of the tournament and recouping cost for game seperatly. Make the cost of the venue a donation and not required to play in game. Someone needs to be able to come and pay for tournament and have whole amount go into pot.

    For a public establishment you might get away with it once or twice a year, but if it becomes regular at those numbers it will get busted. Even at once if you have a random cop in place or someone invites wrong person you are hosed. And even if you are not raking pot by letter of law its ileagal.
     
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    @Bruce M yep this is all true. But it still happens all the time. I have even attended Police balls where they raked thE tourney for charity, which made it illegal. They just don't care to bust games that are not in it for profit. We have several full fledged raked rooms that have been running for years without getting busted.

    Nonetheless we solved our problem. One of the players withe a big house and great parking has offered to host.
     
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    Yea the enforcement is annoying. There was a huge poker tournament that happened in Houston I guess around 10 years ago that was a charity event that even had celebrities attending that was shut down even before it happened. I also heard in Texas they were originally going after even the free bar games because the bar made money. I think that is laxed now. my wife has family in Dallas if I am ever back there will try and hit one of your games. Let me know if you are ever in Denver I will get you in one here.

    Great to here you got a place. Private place with no obvious rake is bullet proof : )

    Appreciate all you do for the board and love your pharaoh chips, there just to damn hard to add to. ( I think I remembered you designed them)

    Have a nice evening.
     
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    I just helped run a charity event at the VFW in our town, and it only cost about $300 for the venue. Because it was in MA, however, we also had to hire a policeman at $50/hour in order to make it legit. Not sure if the VFW would let us run a private, non-charity game there for the same price.
     
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