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I am new at running cash games

Discussion in 'Cash Game / Ring Game Advice' started by avsfan91, Jul 29, 2007.

  1. avsfan91

    avsfan91 Well-Known Member

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    I am new at running cash game at my house. I do have tournaments about once a week and I want to start a cash game about once a week. What should I do as rules? Is a cash game that mush different then a tournament? Should cash games only be no-limit hold'em so should I add dealer pick? What should I do about seating? Thanks for the help.
     
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  2. dad604

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    Cash games are not that different from tourneys in most respects. Some difference, blinds do not go up, you an sit or quit any time.

    You can play any stake, Fix or NL as you wish, any game you want. My games are usually fix limit holdem but pick your own favourites. Cash/ring games are the norm for poker, tournaments are a new thing stemming from the popularity of the TV shows. I like cash vs tourney as everyone is in the game all the time, in a tourney, the early bustouts are drinking beer until the tourney ends. As for picking seats, you can draw for seats if everyone arrives at the same time, otherwise just let everyone sit where they want. I think free choice of seats would be best as there will be less confrontation is someone wants to move to different seat, etc.
     
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    If it's dealers choice, you'd usually have an ante and then the first bettor is to the left of the dealer or in 5 card draw/Jack are better. Whatever, there are a ton of games. Or if you decide to stick to a particular style of play like holdem or omaha, you can keep a blind structure, as long as you keep track of who missed a blind when people get up to get a beer.
     
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    If you need a set of rules for a home game, use these:

    http://pokercoach.us/RobsPkrRulesHome.htm

    Modify or add to them for your specific games, but make sure you know them pretty well, and make sure you have them available, and make sure you announce that you are using them! GL. :happy:
     
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    Set a min/max buy in. decide the stakes up front. Make sure everyone knows that the can rebuy when they are below the max or whatever.
     
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    How many players do you need to make a good cash game? Can do play with just 4 or 5?
     
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    Four is usually the min IMO. I prefer 6-8 for cash games but it all depends on what folks are comfortable with as some folks enjoy playing short handed or even just heads up.
     
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    Short handed games are crazy loose and wild. I don't like em but we run with five at times. Cash games seem to have more issues that tourneys. Most good "rules" try to avoid problems by anticipating them. For instance, the 0ne Hour Rule (or 1/2 hour). Example: guy wins big pot, folds next hand then says he's got to go. GL getting out the door. One hour rule is a courtesy that you announce your time to leave one hour before to avoid the hit and run. Also if you announced at 6 that your leaving at 7 and at 6:59 you hit a big pot then leave. It's not held against you.
     
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    I do like the one hour rule and I think I will have to use it as one of my rules. What other rule do you guys have in place?
     
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    The one hour rule (Or Gentlemen's announce rule) is very important in a cash game. I always say at my house, "Don't hit and run... Commerce Casino is 10 minutes away. Go there if that's your way."

    The othe rule, or suggestion in a cash game... (Learned this one from Quads), ALWAYS help the house out by buying in with smaller bills. If it's a $100 buy in... don't bring only $100 bills. Strip bar money is always good for buy in's, 20's, 5's and 1's. Not everyone will do it, most won't. But if even three people do it, that's a huge help when you cash people out later.
     
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    There was another thread about hit-and-run players. I didn't think it was a big deal if people did it, but I think I've changed my mind. My next cash game will have a 1/2 hour, 3/4 hour, or 1 hour rule now. :wink:
     
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    During my last two cash games that I have hosted I had some whiny chip leaders who couldn't wait to leave. The one game ended at 1:30AM when we were left with 2 players down from the original 5. The most recent game ended at 2:30AM when we were down to 6 players from the original 9. Both times I made the mistake by not announcing the end time up front. I could play until 7AM but nobody that I play with feels the same as I do.

    I like the cash game better over tournament play because I feel there is different skill involved with the cash game over a tournament. I find a lot of players in my cash game get the chip lead early on but then seem to donk off all their chips by the end of the night since they run out of patience and just don't understand the cash game as well as others do. I find that with tournaments there are more players willing to get their chips in with rag hands because it is a physiological thing that they aren't really playing with actual money like in a cash game. I also found that a cash game can get more tense than a tournament especially if lots of alcohol is being consumed.

    As I posted in a different thread earlier my next home game will more than likely need to be a tournament because of the amount of interest there has been as of late to get into my home game. If I could I'd host a cash game every week I would because I love them so much!
     
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    1. Decide on a starting time and a stopping time and stick to them. It will keep people coming back for more.

    2. Decide on a maximum buy-in if you are playing no-limit. That is the amount anyone can begin a hand with. [Optionally, decide if players need to be below a certain amount to top up to the maximum again.]

    3. Set your blinds in relation to the maximum buy-in. The big blind might be 1/100 of the max buy-in, for example.

    4. Announce the blinds/buy-in/game(s) to be played in advance. People will know what to expect.

    5. Let people know if they should bring their own refreshments/food.

    6. Mention any restrictions at your home: smoking, drugs, weapons.

    7. Select a set of general rules that will provide guidance for occasional irregularities. Is a card dealt off the table considered "exposed" and to be replaced? What constitutes a misdeal? Should dealer deal to all stacks, and then muck the hands at empty seats? Can people talk about the current hand? Can people say the truth about their hand if they wish or expose their hands while play is in progress? Things like that.

    8. Have one banker in charge of gathering money and giving out chips and make that person be fully responsible for the cash-out at the end.

    9. Decide whether you will seat randomly (by picking cards) or let players choose their own seats. If the same group plays together a lot, randomizing may eliminate people choosing seats based on position over other weaker players.
     
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    Good thought.. we buy in initially at 50-60 and there are a lot of 20's and 100's brought to the table. I don't host but carry a bankroll with me into games. I try to break a 20 down to a 10, a 5 and 5 ones and keep this with my roll. Usually I'm the last to leave and this helps count out at the end. If your hosting I suggest you take a 50 to the bank and get 50 ones. Put this in a safe place in your room and bring down only when you count out at the end of the night to make change.
     
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    Thanks for all the help. Do think I should have only one game going at a time. Like have a $1/$2 game as my only game or can I have more then more game going?
     
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    Unless you like to have a big crowd at your place, why have more than one game going unless you are running it for profit and taking a rake?
     
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    No rake it would just we a group of friends.
     
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    Aren't $50s Taboo in poker?
    Make sure you have change lots of Depending on your stakes...Quarters, 1s and 5s
     
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    No, not taboo. Not in the local games around here. :cigar:
     
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    Probably not many places I'm guessing. I was just reading SuperSystem and Brunson
    noted that 50 dollar bills were Taboo in the old days.
     
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