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Good reference material for playing live $2-$5 fixed limit?

Discussion in 'Poker Strategy General' started by naked_eskimo, Mar 16, 2015.

  1. naked_eskimo

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    Been playing poker for years, probably about 12 in total now. Vast majority in home games with an online phase of about two years back in 2004 - 2006 ish. I've only ever really played NL, but lately I have decided I want to spend more time playing live poker in my nearest casino. They don't offer NLHE however. So I play $2-$5 limit with a kill. I own and have read both Small Stakes Hold'em and Winning Low Limit Hold'em but have not dusted them off for years now. I was wondering if there were more up to date books for low fixed limit that are popular now, or do those two still remain the go to books for low fixed limit?

    Generally my strategy is to not play trash in early position ( AJo or lower). Play big pairs aggressively pre-flop and later. Play small pairs and suited connectors more that I would in a NL game as long as there are at least 5 players in the pot. Just general concepts like that. I am winning consistently, but I know I am missing spots where I could plug some leaks and have better results. For example, last week ( I go about once per week), I played for 3 hours and walked away 3 BB up. I know the rake accounts for some of that as well, but that's not a stellar win rate. Not sure, also, what I should consider to be a decent win rate with live $2/$5.

    Anyway, I'm heading there again tonight, as was just wondering what the general strategy is nowadays and maybe what book might be popular. Or should I just re-visit SSHE and WLLHE?

    Thanks
     
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    they're really still the standard texts and are still applicable up to some $10/20 LHE games imo, particularly Ed Miller's SSHE. low limit games don't tend to evolve in the same way something like NL or even $15/30 or higher has changed over the last ten years.

    you sound like you've internalized the concepts in those books already, although i would say not to bother much at all with suited connectors unless conditions are very specifically appropriate. suited connectors are mostly just spew hands in LHE imo.
     
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    Jennifer Harman wrote the chapter on limit hold'em for Super System II. It's been years since I've read it, but given her background it's probably solid.

    Another vote here for Ed Miller's book. It helped my game a great deal back in the day, before NLHE became all the rage.
     
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    Third vote for Ed Miller titles.
     
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    Hold’em Poker For Advanced Players By David Sklansky and Mason Malmuth worked well for me in a regular home game and the occasional visit to the casino. Good luck.
     
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    Well, played for 3 hours and cashed out $101 from my $100 buy in. I toked the cashier $1, so I broke even. Stupid rake.

    The results are fine. I'm trying not to be results oriented and it's working--in part thanks to Jared Tendlers The Mental Game of Poker. It's my play and the decisions that I made that I'm focusing on. I'm sure that I made many, many errors but the ones that come to mind that I need to work on in the future is paying off made hands on the river. Limit poker is new to me, so I'm trying to adjust. Twice last night I paid off the same guy with a flush on the river. The one time I floppped top two, the second time I flopped a set. Both times he goes call, call, call, raise when the flush card comes on the river. I'm not necessarily saying auto muck in this spot, but I think I could focus on this area. Limit poker is an odd beast, particularly low limit poker. It's very much no fold'em hold'em. I'm sure that it can be beat, but it's going to take some focusing on my part.
     
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    what is the rake/drop in this game? very few raked/dropped games with a $5 big bet will be profitable long term (although the kill might change that depending on how the game plays), so i wouldn't worry so much about your results as much as i'd use the game as a training ground (though online play would probably be better for this as you can get in so many more hands) for bigger games.

    honestly the first level that you could reasonably expect to see profitability long term is $4/8 and even there it's questionable. if you're looking to make money you'll need to play at least $10/20, which is a time charge rather than a rake in most rooms.
     
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    The rake is 10%, $5 max. Kill hands after $50 plus pots. Kill pots are $5/$10

    Unless it's a multiway to the river kind of pot, it's hard to get by that rake and the dealer toke.

    I am just using this as practice for now. But I think I might just stick to tournaments at this casino. Not sure that limit poker is something that I want to spend a ton of time playing. I do enjoy playing in a casino environment, and since this casino does not offer NL, I might just have to stick with limit. Other than tournaments. Maybe I'll take up online poker again.. I just hate that frickin beeping noise while I'm trying to decide what to do. Drives me bonkers.
     
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