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Diamond Chip Cleaner's Main Ingredient...TSP

Discussion in 'Poker Chip Care' started by GreatDeals22, Mar 16, 2008.

  1. asam2006

    asam2006 Well-Known Member

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    I've cleaned thousands of chips mostly Paulsons with inlays and hotstamps with PS and its worked great. It takes some of the oil out of the chip as to be expected but a little mineral oil takes care of that. It won't remove hot stamps and I've never noticed any problems. I'm pretty sure it doesn't fade the colors on ASMs and Paulsons. That has been my experience and thats why I've stayed with it. I love my chips and I would never mistreat them ( unless one of them was extremely bad).:wink:
     
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  2. Josh7975

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    ok well apparently it's illegal to sell TSP in New York State. There is a "TSP-substitute" available, which is in liquid form, but I'm not going to mess with that.

    Looks like I will be sticking with pipeshield, or maybe I'll look for TSP next time I am across the border in Ontario.

    I will try to post pics of a few EP ASM $5s I cleaned in pipeshield. I don't know what the actual color is supposed to be when clean, but the ps definitely faded some of the chips-- a few are less pink on one side than the other, probably due to the fact that I flipped them over half-way through a 24-hr soak. Mineral oil darkened the color, but didn't remove the color difference. I know another CTer mentioned problems with fading in purple paulsons.

    From what little I know about pigments, some colors (esp. scarlets and non-toxic bright reds) are made by precipitating organic dyes onto aluminum dust. It's possible the pipeshield eats up the dyes, just like it eats up other organic material. I think most other pigments are made of ground up minerals, like iron oxide. They're inorganic and wouldn't be affected by pipeshield. Just my thoughts on this.

    Thanks again for everyone's tips.
     
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  3. monkeydog

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    I used Bondex TSP substitute with good results.
     
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  4. clmayfield

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    Thanks for the patent info on this thread. I found some DAP brand TSP at Lowe's. As it turns out, their TSP product already contains sodium carbonate. Using the info from the patent (and some basic chemistry), I calculated that if I mixed a gallon of purified water with 2 teaspoons of baking soda and 15 teaspoons (5 tablespoons) of the DAP TSP product (really TSP/Sodium Carbonate), I approximated the mix of Diamond Chip cleaner.

    My chemistry is way back, but I think that the Baking Soda serves as a buffer to maintain a pretty consistent pH. The mixture has worked well on my Treasure $1's allowing for a good cleanign without being too harmful to the chips. It would be interesting to try this mix with a hot stamped chip and see what happens.

    In comparing to the price of Diamond Chip Cleaner or even Pipe Shield in my area, this is a real bargain. Many many thanks for this discovery!
     
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  5. darrelll

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    Before finding this thread, I used bleach, dishwashing hand soap, jewelry cleaner, amonia kitchen cleaner and all I'd have to spend 2+ minutes per chip with unsatisfactory results. I soaked the chips for 2 days in DW liquid soap w/hot water and still no improvement.

    I tried TSP which I happen to have under my sink (great for mopping kitchen tile floors too) and used about 2tsp with 50oz hot water and 3min it got a lot easier to remove the gunk, after about 8-10 minutes, it was like a miracle, I could rub off most of the grime with my fingers and then used a soft toothbrush to clean the crevasses such as the outer groove and the canes on my heavily used/worn Paulsons Top Hat/Cane casino chips. After about 10 min soak, I only needed to spend about 10-15 seconds of brushing to get the chips completely clean!

    Before cleaning w/TSP, the chips looked horrible! I've never seen such dirty chips, the top hats and canes were all BLACK from grime and most of the hot stampings were not visible because of the grime and gunk.

    My Nexgens are still pretty clean after about 100+ MTT's but I'll try TSP out carefully if they ever need cleaning.
     
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  6. chipandachair

    chipandachair Well-Known Member

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    Thank you for TSP. I bought some at Home Depot for $3.97. I used the 1lb box to clean 900 St. Jo's Paulson. I did have to brush the $1's to get all the finger dirt out of the inlay, but it worked fine.

    Very cheap way to clean a ton of chips.

    C & C:cool:
     
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  7. cpiaaq

    cpiaaq Creativity Alliance

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    What kind of solution did you use?
     
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  8. chipandachair

    chipandachair Well-Known Member

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    I used something close to this 64oz. water to 1/4c. TSP.

    C & C
     
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  9. cpiaaq

    cpiaaq Creativity Alliance

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    Thank you
     
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  10. ski2mi

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    For anyone else in UK & Ireland, TSP (or it's equivalent) is known here as Sugar Soap, and is commonly used for cleaning walls before painting, so your decorating outlet should also stock it in addition to DIY / Hardware stores.
     
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    Is your name for hydrochloric acid "Honey Lotion"? :stunned:
     
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    I'm no chemist, but using the molar % described for DCC (1 part SB - 2.6 parts SC - 1.6 parts TSP) It seems to me that your solution is a bit strong at least compared to DCC. Am I missing something?
     
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