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Diamond Chip Cleaner's Main Ingredient...TSP

Discussion in 'Poker Chip Care' started by GreatDeals22, Mar 16, 2008.

  1. ovo

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    I've used Diamond CC on hotstamps with no problems, even soaking for 15 min. So maybe use caution and test each new type of hotstamp in solution, as there seems to be variations. And don't scrub hard around hotstamp
     
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    Used TSP not Diamond CC, it worked fine if you only soaked them for 2-3 minutes.
     
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  3. CrazyJoeDavola

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    Would adding a teaspoon of baking soda to the TSP mix ease the effects a bit (allowing a larger time window for soaking?)
     
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  4. CrazyJoeDavola

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    Thanks for the TSP tip, used 1.5 tablespoons per 1.5quarts to clean my dirty Casino Chipcos and it worked great. Really cleaned 'em up nicely, no more sticky grimy chips, and NO bad reaction to the TSP w/ the ceramics :)
    Took 4 batches (6 tablespoons) of TSP to clean over 700 chips in about 2.5 hours.
     
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  5. EmptyPocs

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    I was never impressed by DCC (unless you find soap and water impressive).
    Does this stuff TSP really work?
    How about some before and after pics?
     
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    I'm sorry. Did you actually read the title of the thread? Because I'm really confused.
     
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  7. EmptyPocs

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    :huh:
    seems pretty straight forward
    was I out of context?

    Title claims DCC's main ingredient = TSP
    TSP is being touted as great stuff and cheaper to buy

    I once bought used DCC and think it's *
    so I'm asking for visuals on how TSP worked.
     
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  8. cdnmoose

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    If you thought DCC was overpriced that is one thing but if you thought DCC didn't work then straight TSP isn't going to work any better for you since DCC mainly is TSP.
     
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  9. EmptyPocs

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    yep, thats it in a nutshell.
    I didt mean to go out of my way to bash DCC (if thats whats bothering you),

    perhaps I could have just said again I was not impressed with it (as per my "any more than plain old soap and water" comment).


    But I am genuinely interested in seeing results with TSP
    (even if it is the so called main ingredient of DCC) .

    so, without further sidetracking:
    :TTIWWP:


    BTW, GreatD. what what bransd chips did you clean?
     
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    Here are some pics...dirty...
     
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    and CLEAN!!!
     
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  12. EmptyPocs

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    amazing, I have the same chips and cant get them clean.
    I wasted a whole bottle of DCC on them and found that any other cleaner was about just as effective or mostly better (if it didnt outright damage the stamp).
    and pipe shield ruined a test batch of my purples (discolored them)

    did the gunk dissolve oof or did you have to scrub?
    also, how did you protect the stamp if you had to scrub it after the soak
     
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    I used one table spoon in 1/2 cup of water. 20 chips/batch. I let one batch sit for 2 mins. then used a soft bristle toothbrush to brush off the worst using my thumb to cover the stamp, this resulted in no damage to the stamp but a little bit of elbow grease. I then let a batch sit for 5 mins. brushed off the dirt very easily but I was a little concerned about the stamp. I let a few chips sit for 20 minutes and the stamps started to come off. I would say the ideal is approx. 3 min. After I brushed the chips I rinsed them at least twice under running water. Anything that was stuck in the circle or hat and cane I picked out with an exacto knife. After oil they look great.
     
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    thnaks for the details

    I left mine sit in DCC for at least a day and still couldnt get the crud off with a toothbrush.
    Did your concoction blanch the chips at all or did it help bring back the color?
     
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    seemed to take a little of the colour out. once they were oiled it came right back.
     
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    Avoid the injection, get the compression.
    A Google search for TSP returned these links:

    TSP (Trisodium Phosphate) Usage Information on the Natural Handyman home repair and do it yourself website

    Trisodium phosphate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Try Trisodium Phosphate For a Thorough Clean Before Painting

    My take-away:
    1. TSP can damage the eco-environment if released in vast quantities (which probably applies to all sorts of strong chemicals anyways).

    2. It can corrode metal. So be careful where you use and dump it.

    3. It will leave a filmy residue.
    Pro: It'll protect the cleaned items (walls, chips) from micro-organisms.
    Con: Do you want a filmy residue on your chips? Individual choice.

    [SIZE=+1]"TSP is not recommended for cleaning in bathrooms...[/SIZE] TSP can cause staining to metals such as shower doors, chromed drains and plumbing fixtures, and can also etch the glazing on ceramic tile if left in contact too long. It can also attack the grout... it is an ingredient in products used to remove dried grout from tile surfaces in new installations."

    Interesting facts about how different types of phosphates are currently used:
    Uses and Applications - Phosphate Forum of the Americas
     
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    Avoid the injection, get the compression.
    MonkeyDog, those Before & After photos show some impressive results from your cleaning technique because the hotstamps still appear to be intact on your Paulson chips.
     
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    The Chips that I used TSP on were Paulsons and Chipcos. I let the chips soak in a solution of 1 tablespoon of TSP in 32 oz. of water for 5 to 8 minutes and then gave them a light brushing with a small soft brush.

    I had tried the dish soap in water method of chip cleaning and I found that it was quite labor intensive way to clean chips when there was quite a bit of grime and dirt in the Top Hat and Cane on the Paulsons.

    A short soak in the TSP solution and a light brushing made easy work at getting the grime and dirt from the Top Hat and Cane. After giving the fronts and backs of 10 chips a light brushing, I would put those 10 chips in a stack and lightly brush the edges of those 10 chips at the same time. You'll find it's much easier to do a faster and better cleaning job when you brush a small stack of chips instead of do them one by one.

    Maybe 1/10th the effort to clean a Paulson Chip with TSP compared to the Dish Soap and water method. What is best though is the very cheap price for a small container of TSP that will help you clean 1000's of chips for a nominal price of appoximately $5.00. I'm not kidding when I tell you that you can clean 1000's of Paulson, Ceramic or Plastic Chips.

    PLEASE NOTE: Some CT members have had problems using TSP on their ASM chips. I recommend that you use some other method when cleaning your ASM chips.

    Recently, I personally cleaned over 2000 Paulson and 500 Chipco Casino Chips using TSP with no adverse effects to the chips. 200 of the chips were circulated MotorCity Quarters...No visible dirt or grime, but you could feel a slight stickyness to the chips. A 5 minute soak of the MotorCity's in a TSP solution + 3 cold water rinses and a quick toweling until the chips dried... gave me 2 racks of Paulson's MotorCity's Chips that were now Bright, Shiny with a Very Soffffffffft Feeling. (People that have Paulson's with that "Soft"
    feeling know what I'm talking about.)

    If you find yourself with quite a few Paulson's or Chipco's that you want to Clean up, invest $5.00 in a small container of TSP and give it a try on a few chips. I think you'll be quite suprised at the time and effort savings.
     
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    Here is my TSP result. The first photo I gave it more light then the second photo (both are the same picture). Close up picture for the third picture.

    I do lightly oil them. They do beat out Oxyclean, Pipe Shield. For the cost, fast, and easy. I really highly recommend TSP....

    Any questions free feel and ask.

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    Can I get one please?
     
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