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"Claysmith Gaming" chips?

Discussion in 'Poker Chip General' started by gostumpy, Jan 8, 2016.

  1. gostumpy

    gostumpy Well-Known Member

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    http://www.amazon.ca/Claysmith-Gaming-25-Composite-Milano/dp/B005OZTOLC/ref=sr_1_16?s=sports&ie=UTF8&qid=1452309811&sr=1-16&keywords=clay poker chip

    Found these on Amazon.ca for what seems like a decent price, I know these are not true casino style clay chip, but are they miles better than the slugged cheap crap that I currently have?

    I likely will not be able to justify a ~$500 set of chips in the near future, but I am starting hosting a monthly or weekly poker night and I want to buy a dedicated cash game set.

    This would allow me to get a full cash set for ~$200 shipped

    Thoughts?

    Thanks!!
     
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  2. Couga

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    In short, the answer to your question is 'Yes, they are miles better than dice chips.'

    You may want to check out the new Majestic line of China Clay chips, as they are getting pretty rave reviews. You can find them at Apache Poker Chips.

    Good luck on your search!
     
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    Everything I read says there pretty dang good, so I ordered a sample ream of 25 $5 chips :)
     
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    The thing to note about China Clays - the category of chips that Milanos, Majestics, CPS, Pharoah replicas, et. al. fall into - is that quality control is lax. MOST chips in any given series are great, but there will absolutely be inconsistencies somewhere. The Milanos historically have had significant height issues from denom to denom (there could be a 1-chip difference in height between a stack of 1's vs. 5's); the Majestics have a couple denoms that have chips which either vary in diameter by a millimeter or two, or they aren't perfectly round. While no type of chip or chip manufacturer is immune to such issues, China Clays are more susceptible to them than others.

    Does that mean they're bad chips and you shouldn't buy them? Absolutely not. The Majestics, for the money, are one of the best values around. I own a set myself and wouldn't hesitate to recommend them to someone looking for a good set; as others have said, they are indeed light years ahead of the slugged variety of chips, as well as the "official casino weight" chips. They also have the closest sound to Paulsons when shuffling them, if that matters to you. It's simply a situation of "you get what you pay for".

    You did the right thing by getting some samples first. If you're looking an alternative budget line of chips, you might also try some ceramic chips such as Laurel Crowns or Scrolls - you can purchase them for roughly the same price as the Milanos, the ceramic blanks have a much more consistent shape/size, and they have none of the distinctive China Clay odor. As with the China Clays - or any other type of chip, for that matter - be sure to get samples of those ceramics before buying, though.
     
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    Thanks for that! I have samples of Pharaohs, Desert Palms, ASM, and Venetians...

    By far and above I like the ASM's, the others don't even compare.. it would be a harder decision if I didnt fall in love with the ASM's... Pharaohs and Desert Palms are quite similar.. the Venetians are nice in their own way but far too plasticy for my tastes.

    Looking forward to these new samples! I hope they're close enough to ASM's as far as feel goes that I'll be content for a good while until i have a large enough poker BR to afford a new set.
     
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    Took out my sample chips and have been playing with them, looking forward to the Milano's..

    Pharaoh's (9.5g)- Plasticy feeling IMO, more of a thud than a clink when stacking. Mostly square edges, not very rounded
    Desert Palms (9.5g)- much better, more of a clink when stacking
    ASM's (8.6g) - Best, nice clay-like clink, and very squared edges like Paulsons I've seen.

    I'm assuming that the Milano's will be somewhere between the Desert Palms and the ASM's? I wish they would have the nice flat square edges, but it appears I'll be paying a premium for that :sad:
     
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    In my opinion, the Milano's have a slight bevel, and are closer to the Pharaoh's than the Desert Palms. In the china clay realm, the chips I have samples of with the sharpest edges are the Desert Palms and the PGI "Great Wall" chips (link). Unfortunately, I don't think there are chips available from PGI with stock labels.

    But that's just my opinion. It all depends on what you are looking for.
     
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    ASMs are truly a cut above Milanos and very close to Paulsons in my opinion. However, ASMs will run you $1/chip or more if customized and/or you want more complex edge spot patterns.
     
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    Hello, I'm late to this discussion as I am new to this forum, but I wanted to share based on my experience. I was looking at Milanos in 2015 and contacted Claysmith Gaming, but I found that their stock was a little depleted (at least at the time) for key denominations. I ended up contacting the Canadian shop Straight Poker Supplies and purchased a 1000pc set of their Crazyhorse chips, which are exactly the same as the Milanos but with a different stamp. Cost about $400, but that included 10 racks and an acrylic case.

    My impression - obviously much better than dice chips, but not as good as others mentioned already. A handful of the 1000 chips were either larger or smaller than they should have been, and many tended to discolor without even being played.

    Overall, I would definitely recommend the chips due to the weight (10g) and feel, but note that there are drawbacks.

    Thanks!
    DC
     
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    Which denominations discoloured? And was it just one denomination, or was it multiple?
     
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    Just to update, I got my Milano chips, and as was said earlier, they are definitely not in the same league as the ASM's I have... I actually prefer my Pharaoh chips slightly more than the Milanos.

    Looks like I'll be waiting until I can afford my custom set from CPC :sad:
     
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    Several of the $500 chips faded dramatically (bright pink/purple to light pink) without ever being used. Some blue $10 chips faded as well, but not as severe. No one from my poker group ever mentioned it, as they love the weight and feel, but I noticed the discoloration. Personally, I don't regret the purchase due to the availability of denominations and the relatively inexpensive price (~$0.35 per chip).
     
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    Good to know. I had read reports of thr $5k chips fading, but not the $500.

    Thanks!
     
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