Anyone use YAT Unsuited Speed Cloth?

I'm considering building my first table and I received some samples from YourAutoTrim.com of the following: Velveteen, Ultrasoft Velveteen, Suited Speed Cloth, Unsuited Speed Cloth, and the Whisper Vinyl sampler.

I was considering the UltraSoft Velveteen and the Unsuited speed cloth and think I like the speed cloth a little better. But I'm wondering if anyone here has used it and what you think of it.

I'm probably going to use the Burgundy color cloth with either Whisper Camel or Gravel colored Vinyl.

 

Nice color combos! I have used YAT's unsuited speed cloth on a number of my tables. The cards slide very nice and it is protected with teflon so spills won't soak through. It is a bit rough on the fingers and a little stiff to work with, but it is still a very nice cloth to use.

You will get only top notch customer service from Jason over at YAT and if you go over to Scott Keens poker table forum you can find a 15% discount code. Not sure if he has the same thing set up for CT or not.

Good luck on the table and make sure you post pictures!!!

 

I've built 2 tables with the unsuited speed cloth and don't really like working with it at all. The material is good but as Guma pointed out it is much rougher to the touch and harder to work with in my opinion.

 

Thanks guys! That was sort of my first impression was that it felt a little rougher/stiffer than the other samples, but overall it does seem like high quality cloth and I like the look of it.

Do you have any other suggestions for softer unsuited speed cloth or would the velveteen/ultrasoft velveteen be the best alternative?

 

Take a look at his nylon velvet speed cloth. I have a full sample ring of this cloth and find that people are liking it more than the unsuited speed cloth. Much softer and no where near as stiff either. I am unsure about whether or not it is pretreated with teflon, but if not you can always use scothguard. Call Jason and ask for a sample of the Nylon Velvet Speed Cloth, I highly doubt you will be disappointed!

 

Make sure if you use scotch guard to try it on a sample piece first. some people have reported that scotchguard affects the playability of the cloth. but definitely worth looking into like Guma said.

 

Unsuited Speed Cloth? Not recommended

 

As the inventor of and the person that "coined" the phrase" Unsuited Cloth which YAT stole, and started to use (copy ) 8 months after invented it, I will have to say that his product (100% Acrylic) good for sweaters not poker tables ) and my product are night and day diffrent, his is not made by the " suited cloth mfg'er, .
.... my unsuited cloth is made on the same exact machine suited cloth is. and its slicker than glass, cards actually fly faster on it than suited cloth, there is 0 resistance, it is not rough like YATS however i decided to drop the olefin out of it and i went straight 100% poly. still teflon coated, I can still repel black ink on this product , but not as well as the High Def Mini Suited.
free samples for those who would like to compare. I know a few people on this forum that are reputable builders that have seen both, they are probably busy building tables rather that jumping into this thread however, I know what they will tell you, if you need refrences or samples let me know, direct emails inquirys please no PMz.
YAT ruined the name of unsuited cloth as far as Im concerned
but i just wanted to set the record straight , expecially since he stole a name that i made popular by quality. and put it on an diffent inferior product.

 

BTW Guma you better check your facts about YATs unsuited stuff having teflon on it, when you do , edit your post and recant your statement about the teflon thats NOT on his unsuited Cloth. his product page says nothing about teflon. Un-Suited Speed Cloth
Im sure if i did he would of said so in the product description. If it does and he aint telling everybody about, aint too smart of marketing there...
The only thing that it says is[FONT=arial, helvetica] " Water Repellant! Spills clean up easy!
water repellancy and teflon are not synonmous .. wheres the spell checker in this window
Sorry its a real pet peeve of mine when someone j[/FONT][FONT=arial, helvetica]umps into a thread and doesn't have the facts correct. Im sure it was an honest mistake.

you will get a better answers about a product from a guy that has sold over $250,000 dollars worth of it in 2007,, with NO RETURNS...... to loyal and satisfied repeat customers.
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Guma, I do have a sample of the nylon velvet cloth on the way as well as individually cut samples of several whisper vinyl colors to compare (the ones in the sample brochure are sort of small and getting larger samples for .25/each is a no brainer). So we'll see how that goes. I like the USVelvet burgundy but it is pretty dark in color compared to the unsuited speed cloth. I'll have a better idea when my sample arrives.

PokerSupplies...I can't pass up an offer for a free sample. Email sent. I looked on my YAT sample rings and neither the suited or unsuited speed cloth samples list the "ingredients" but the velveteen samples do.

 

After thinking about it i would love to get some of my stuff into the hands of some Chip Talk heavy hitters, I will offer a few larger samples mayby enough to to an octagon or 48" round, Heres the catch...

You will have had to use YATS so called unsuited stuff
and you cant be a YAT Cronie,
You will have to be objective and honest and have no intrest in promoting me or them.
after you give both fair analysis, come back online and tell us which you'd rather play on.. and while your at it...dump some black ink it and tell us what happens. Ill send ya some ink if you dont have any,
Im in... any takers?

 

Guma, Slow Down
Scott's Poker Table :: View topic - Quick Question about Unsuited Speed Cloth sold by YAT
Instead of asking in Scotts PTF in which you may get other people that jump into a thread that think they know what their talking about and dont. Well about 52 people have viewed the thread and no one has jumped in yet.
What you need to do is is tommorow when you get up , call Jason HIMSELF and ask him yourself directly and not rely on a grapvine. while your talking to him have him correct his spelling of Burgandy Suited Cloth to Burgundy, on his website its been like that for 3 years, and the guy he is linking to and recommending in Canada, pokersuppliescanada has been outta business for like 2 years. and its a dead link.i dont know it just bugs me for some anal reason. Then your next post will have some credibility. the key word i see in your new post was ASSUMPTION.

It really doesnt matter whether it does or doent any more than i care if my toilet paper i use has it. All the Builders Guys i know say they dont like it. hell he may spray it with PAM before he ships it out for I know. ( JOKE)
I do give you credit for admiting that you do not know and were assuming..and you seek truth and knowledge,
Its all cool................Im not trying to crucify you over it
Should we send it to the CSI Lab?

 

Well, I must say this thread has made me rethink my plans to re-cover my poker table (built it last year with a used billiard table felt - it's tough to find poker cloth in Australia).

I had been considering the various options, but quite a few negative comments about the unsuited version made me hesitant to order the suited stuff in case it was as rough as people were complaining about. I had no idea it was a completely different cloth to the suited speed cloth. I might have to actually order samples soon as the pilling on the old billiard felt is driving me nuts - though at least that means my table is getting a few games.

Finn

 

Australia is a hot market for me right now , i ship to 10- 15 customers a week,
its a pisser shipping to Austrailia cost effectivly. I ship USPS its a *****, i cant sent a package that more than 42" long to stay within the usps global priority
specs, so..... i have to break one on my business 10 commandments and fold the cloth at 41"...... not to worry
My unsuited cloth is 60" wide its made on the same machine that my high definition mini suited cloth is. its glass smooth and a tighter than a virgin stich, there is ZERO STRETCH to this cloth its built tough, IT HAS TEFLON !!! not rough like YATS since it is 100% poly it takes heat from a steam iron better so steaming out a crease is a cinch.
shipping rates to Aussie land are and 45 bucks for 9 ft cloth USPS Global priority
my customers ussually recieve there goodies in 5-7 business days.

 

Well as it has been so eloquently pointed out, I am seeking further information on whether or not the unsuited speed cloth that Jason sells is pretreated with Teflon or not. I posted the question over at Scotts because Jason frequents the forum and will answer the post when he has the time. When he does reply to the post I will convey the same information to this thread and retract any misinformed statements or assumptions I have made.

My apologies to you Mark, as I do not mean to mislead you in any way!

What I will say about the unsuited speed cloth from Jason is that it does repel all liquids that I have thrown at it, so spills will not soak into the fabric. Keep in mind I only tested water, soda, and yes I even poured out a smidgeon of beer (it was only Coors Light) and all of them beaded up and wiped away with a towel leaving no stains or wet marks on the cloth.

Great point that mikeyinsd pointed out, if you try the scotchguard make sure you use some scrap piece(s) first.

Mark - good to see that you are getting plenty of samples to choose from. Get as many as you can get your hands on before you make your final decision on the cloth.

 

the purpose and formulation of scotchgard is to clog the pores of fabric to resist the absorbtion
of food dyes like grape juice and ketchup and such do you drink and spill grape juice when u play poker? it is not designed to be a waterproofer like a silicone based product

 

oh ok now i get it.. you slept in a Holiday Inn Express last night?
quit while your behind

 

ok heres the deal if you buy a pice of **** fabric and you want to waterproof it from spills, go to a leather store at the mall or a good shoe store and get your self a good shoe waterproofer, silicone ect?? whatever, scotchgard is useless crap for what we want as poker table fabric protector.. guma do u still wanna match wits with me? give it a rest.ok so i let out a dirty little secret,
or you can just get good fabric from someone who know what they sell to begin with

 

I would be more than happy to do this review for chiptalk. But you'll either have to send the sample to my brother who can ship it to me in London and/or send me a sample just to get it started. Then my brother could ship the larger piece to me and help with the review.

 

noel you sound like a good old chap . i have 1 free cloth for you just because u sound cool as hell,

here the deal call yat , tell them Poker Supplies has called them on and you want them to match me . tell them poker supplies ltd wants to meet them outside after school, for a little after school education
im donating a cloth to you for review , ask YAT for the same and let get ready to rumble.
Im in for 50 bucks yat wont take me on
whos in?
comon guma get in you yat lover I have $ 50 bucks that says your little hero will lose.