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7thSeat's Gallery of Chip Molds and Names

Discussion in 'Chip Collector Gallery' started by 7thSeat, Nov 9, 2006.

  1. gmunny

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    Diamond mold update- I checked my old manufactures articles that I keep at work and found an article by Gene Trimble in 1998, well it seems like a daily column/blog, where he states that Paul Endy told him that Paul-son does own the Diamond Mold. This is hearsay at best, but that is what is written. My guess is that Paul-son purchased all the molds (or assets?) of Christy & Jones sometime after they were closed down (1965 per my records). Eitherway, still not sure if Paulson ever produced a clay chip on the diamond mold.
     
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  2. hulahoop

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    Thanks Gmunny for posting those pictures of the diamond mold. Yea, you are right that Christy Jones produced casino chips on that mold in the 1950s, and early/mid 1960s. I forgot about that.

    You asked about evidence of Paulson also producing chips on this mold. Here is a thread where someone is selling them, along with documentation from the original owner, consisting of a Paulson catalog, indicating that he bought them directly from Paulson in 1983. (The catalog does not say diamond mold, though, but I am convinced. I'm pretty sure I saw these chips for sale by Paulson in the mid 1990s.)

    WTS FS: Diamond Mold Paulsons, GV Roulette pink, Empress sec. $25 - Poker Chips and Poker Chip Advice - ChipTalk.net

    If you look closely at the chips in the pictures, I think you might see that they are even fatter than the Jack Todd and Christy Jones diamond chips produced in the 1950s and 1960s. It is hard to tell, but I think that they may be a perfect square. They must have made new mold cups. They may have only produced these chips for the home market, as I don't know of casino chips using this mold in the 1980s. Interestingly, I have only seen these chips hotstamped, sometimes only with the starburst stamp. This would indicate that they were concerned about the security of the chip.

    By the way, the "fat diamond" with the fish hotstamp that 7thSeat posted is actually an injection molded chip. I bought a set of injection molded chips with this mold in the 1990s. I still have it, and I just checked, and it is a perfect square (turned to make a diamond). These injection molded "super diamonds" seem to me to be based off the Paulson fat diamond mold, which seems to be less of a slanted parrallelogram than the earlier diamond chips. These are rather small differences, and it is hard to be sure without having a chip in hand. I never bought the Paulson compression diamond clay chips, so I can't be sure if the same.

    I will try to find a scan of a chip with diamonds that are actually smaller than the pictures you have posted.
     
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  3. EmptyPocs

    EmptyPocs all chips, no cash
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    I am glad to see you come home.
    I think about this thread fairly often and always put off the well needed bump.
    Just a week ago I was wondering if could dig up your address but then was not sure if it would still be wise to blindly ship some overdue mold samples to you after such a long silence.
    Have you been keeping up with ASM? Lots of new toys have been released from the vault.
     
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  4. 7thSeat

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    Thanks EmptyPocs,
    Really good looking chips on your photos! I have checked ASM and as you say, lots of new toys :) Perhaps when things slow down a bit I will have the time to add something to my set :wink:
    I would be very pleased to get some mold samples and if it is still possible just PM me and I will give yo my address.
    Cheers for now,
    7th
     
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  5. 7thSeat

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    Gmunny & Hulahoop,

    Good posts!
    Looking forward to see the small diamond mold is you find a scan or photo of it.

    Cheers
    7th
     
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  6. mike32

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    I have some kinda flimsy (but true) evidence that Paulson did indeed manufacture diamond mold chips in the 1990's. Below is a copy of an email from a Paulson employee a few years ago after I emailed him pics of diamond mold chips I purchased on ebay. I have posted pics of the chips before, the blue chips are really "Paulson" looking with the swirled colors and look/feel identical to blue starburst chips I also own.

    From: Justin Woodard
    To: Mike Machesky
    Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 7:12 PM
    Subject: RE: chip question


    Hello Mike,ffice:shocked:ffice" /><O:razz:></O:razz:>
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    The chips pictured are indeed Paulson retail chips and were manufactured in the 90’s and sold out of Las Vegas.<O:razz:></O:razz:>
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    Please let me know if you have any additional questions.<O:razz:></O:razz:>
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    Thanks,<O:razz:></O:razz:>
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    Justin

    Pic of blue chip also attached. There is no doubt in my mind these are Paulson chips.
     

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  7. EmptyPocs

    EmptyPocs all chips, no cash
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    I too have a barrel of those as red starburts; i bought a small lot of paulson SB's on ebay and they were mixed in.
    I will find my image link if anyone want to see it (but I've posted it before).
     
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  8. wartdog

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    cool thread, thanks for bumpin it
     
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  9. hulahoop

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    Mike 32, thanks for posting that picture of your Paulson diamond chips. The picture you posted is better than the one I linked to earlier, and I can see that they are still a parallelogram, rather than a turned square (found on a lot of super diamonds).

    I have (tried to) insert a photo I just took of three of my diamond mold chips next to each other. Each chip is slightly different in relation to the diamond size or shape. The one on the left has larger diamonds than the one on the right. The white one in the back (injection molded) is a square diamond.

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    A link is posted below if the above picture above does not work.
    Photo by hulahoop123 • Instagram

    As a complete aside, I came across something that surprised me. According to this recent (2007) article (link below) by Howard Herz, Jack Todd not only created the diamond mold in the early 1930s, he also created the Hat and Cane mold, which was acquired by Christy Jones in the early 1960s (p.72). This is first I have heard that Christy Jones did not create that mold. Aparently all Jack Todd, Christy Jones, and early Paulson "Hat and Cane" chips were manufactured by the Burt Company (which is now Atlantic Standard Molding - ASM) until the 1970s. (p. 67). I never new that ASM made chips for Paulson so late.

    http://www.ccgtcc-ccn.com/SampleBoxes.pdf
     
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  10. gmunny

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    I think you mis-read the article. Jack Todd did not make the Hat and Cane mold, that was always Christy & Jones. If you re-read it, it says that C&J used their newly acquired diamond mold along side their already owned Hat & Cane mold.

    As far as Paulson, yes the Burt Co made their chips at first. I think that may be the period that those diamond molds sold in the Paulson store were made.
     
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  11. hulahoop

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    Gmuny - I re-read that sentence, and yes your interpretation makes more sense. My bad.
     
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