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Discussion in 'Dealer's Choice Games' started by Matthew, Sep 17, 2005.

  1. Matthew

    Matthew Super Moderator
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    Mar 23, 2005
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    We've been playing no-limit hold-em (cash and tourney) for years and wanted to add in Omaha, 7-stud and maybe draw to the mix.

    Omaha - we understand no-limit and pot limit betting - pretty standard

    What are common ante/betting structures for 7-stud and draw for limit games?

    For draw, with 2 betting rounds seems like a calling game with low limits. Haven't tried playing this yet with the current group.

    We tried some 7-stud with $0.50 bets and max 3 raises - so $2 was the max going in each round of betting - it still turned into a calling game for 2 guys and kinda sucked.

    Any suggestions?
  2. PocketRocket

    PocketRocket Well-Known Member

    Apr 29, 2005
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    For limit stud, it's generally an ante of about 1/4 the lower limit and then the bets go to double the lower limit on the 5th card. So for a 50¢ ante, you might want to go to $2 bets until the 3rd up card is dealt, then to $4 bets for the 6th and 7th cards. Some games might also go to $4 after the 4th card if a pair is showning on the table. After the deal the low card showing makes a forced bet of $2 (kinda like a big blind in hold'em) and if there is is a tied value, then the low card is determined by suits in Clubs, Diamonds, Hearts, Spades, order. On each subsequent round betting (or checking) starts with the high hand showing.

  3. whitepotatoe

    whitepotatoe Well-Known Member

    May 16, 2005
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    Chicago, IL
    It sounds like you don't want a bunch of calling stations, so you should be looking for a low ante structure rather than a high ante structure.

    Try something like this:

    Ante - .10
    Bring In - .25
    Small Bet - 1.00
    Big Bet - 2.00

    A higher ante structure would be more like this:

    Ante - .25
    Bring In - .50
    Small Bet - 1.00
    Big Bet - 2.00

    The bring in is posted by the smallest door card (unless they want to complete the bet to $1.00), then anybody can either call the bring in or complete to 1.00 (can't raise to $2.00 if nobody has completed the bet yet). On 3rd and 4th street you use small bets, then on 5th, 6th, and 7th street you use big bets. If on 4th street, someone has parired their door card, any player has teh option to make a big bet or a big raise instead of a small bet or raise (obviously once the big bet or raise is made, any additional raises must be big). A bet and three raises max is the norm for stud. But for draw, the norm is a bet and four raises, since its only two betting rounds. It is usually played with blinds just like holdem. I like to play it with blinds and antes, to make up for the lack of betting rounds, but we play pot limit or double pot limit, so calling stations don't do too good even with the extra ante money. We usually have the ante be equal to the small blind for draw high or for Kansas City Lowball which is always played no limit.

    Also, if you want to play stud no limit, try Mississippi Stud. Its just like regular stud except that 4th street and 5th street are dealt at the same time, so its like a personal flop for each player. Also, you have to deal the river card face up so that people can't have concealed straights, flushes, and full houses or quads, since it is played in the no limit format.

    Hope that helps. :cigar:
  4. jmda

    jmda Well-Known Member

    May 17, 2005
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    Louisville, KY
    A lot of casinos run a spread limit stud game $1 to $5 or $2 to $10.

    No ante at all. The bring-in is the low end, and low card must bring it in.

    Each player after may call the bring-in or raise any amount up to the max of the spread. Like in a no-limit game a reraise must be at least the amount of the previous raise. i.e. in $1 to $5 the 3h brings it in for $1, the next player raises $2 to make it $3 to go, another player raises and must raise it at least $2, but can raise it $5 to make it $8 to play.

    We play a lot of low stakes SHOE - usually while waiting for players to show up - and we never play the stud games with an ante, just a bring-in

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