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1998 James Bond's

Discussion in 'History of Poker Chips' started by petrographer, Dec 20, 2012.

  1. dutch83

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    Would you ever let any of those $10 chips go?
     
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    Does anyone have info as to when the inlays changed from shaped to plain round and the value difference? I just came across a mixed set of shaped/round inlay and trying to put a value on the set.

    Here's what I have as follows:

    $1 round inlay
    $5 shaped inlay
    $25 - round inlay
    $100 charcoal 3-stripe with round inlay
    $500 3 stripes with shaped inlet
    $1000 mustard with pink/green stripes round inlet.

    Thank you
     
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    Not sure about the shaped vs round inlays on the '98 THC set -- they very well may have produced both at the same time. Just a guess, but I'd wager that the shaped versions came first, and subsequent production runs used all round inlays.

    I haven't noticed any large selling price discrepancy between the inlay shapes. Emphasis on selling prices, since most people seriously overvalue these chips when they list them for sale.

    I'd peg most of them at worth about $1 each in excellent/mint condition, with the 50c, $1, $5 shaped inlays, and $1000 chips a bit higher (maybe $1.50 each, perhaps $2 each for the 50c chips).

    There are a bunch of all denominations in existence, so all the seller claims about rarity (and movie usage) are typical bs.
     
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    Doing some research, and stumbled upon this thread. I was the original owner of all of the Isthmus $10 prop chips that you will occasionally see from time to time, including the one that is on sale on eBay right now (not my auction, but he purchased them from me several years ago).

    As to value, ultimately I guess it is what a willing buyer and seller settle upon. I sold a few to fellow collectors and bond enthusiasts at $30 each when I had a box of them in late 2004, then more at $60, a few in the $100-125 range, and as I got fewer than 10, in the ~$150 range. I think I have 4 or 5 left.

    Interestingly, the ones that were cut in half (shudder) and put on the collectors cards often went in the $100-150 range; perhaps I should have done that and doubled my profits :wink:.

    I do have a $100 as well, and ~10 years ago had worked out a deal to purchase the $50 and $500, but then got busy with getting married and unfortunately they slipped away.

    I hope that gives some clarity :)

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    Wow, can you provide more info on these chips? How did you end up with the original $10 chips? How many were there? Do you know how many $50 and $500 chips exist? Any $25s?
     
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    I ended up with the box of 100 $10 chips the way I've acquired all of the awesome things in my collection: I got lucky when I saw them come up on eBay :wink:. They were from a seller in England who supposedly had a connection at Pinewood Studios.

    I've heard rumors that 200 of each of the 4 denominations ($10, $50-- there was no $25--, $100, and $500) were produced, as well as 200 each of the 6 solid colors of roulette chips. Unfortunately I've never been able to confirm this, though it seems reasonable. If you look in the casino sequence in Goldeneye (yes, these were re-used for that movie) you can see stacks of the $10 and $100, as well as several colors of roulette chips, which would be supportive of those quantities.

    As to how many are still in existence today is anyone's guess. I have only ever seen 1 $10 chip that didn't originally come from me; I've seen one each of the (whole) roulette chips, and at least 3 each of the $50, $100, and $500 chips. There was a 2006 Pinewood studios fire (when Casino Royale was in post production) where reportedly a large number of prop chips were lost, though it was not confirmed that these were Licence to Kill/Goldeneye chips.

    Then you had the collector cards turn up a few years after that where (I would guess that) the remainder of the chips had been sold, cut in half, then sold as 'relics'. I remember seeing all 6 of the roulette colors on those cards, as well as the $500. I never saw the $10, $50, or $100 as part of the collector cards. I like to think that it was because I saved the $10 chips from eventual destruction; whether the $50 or $100 hips perished in the fire, or are in some warehouse waiting to be reused or re-sold at some point is anyone's guess. Hopefully my eye will happen to be on eBay when they do :)

    bjjensen
     
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    And FYI, although the after-market replicas are called '1998 James Bond' chips, that is more of a popular naming convention than a reflection of their actual production history. I remember going to the Paulson retail store (attached to their production facilities) in November of 1994, and they had them for sale as home chips even then. I don't know how early after the production of Licence to Kill they produced them, but they were at least 1994, though I imagine even earlier.

    Incidentally, even then when you bought them at the Paulson retail store the employees would say they were the genuine prop, used in production of the movie, then re-sold back to Paulson after production wrapped (which might be one reason why so many people sold the after-market chips as genuine props). Of course even back then I found it curious that they did not have the $10 chip, since that was the one most prominently featured during the LtK title sequence (amidst all of the dancing naked ladies :wink: ). it took me watching the movie and pausing the VCR to realize that the after-market chips were distinct from the props in several details.

    bjjensen
     
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