[JM]

I think this is going to be nearly impossible to define sufficiently. Its going to be like the definition of pornography, you know it when you see it. Perhaps have some guidelines that HELP define it, but the final decision as to whether its commercial or not is done by you or you and the mods or you and a committee of 5 or 7 who can vote on whether they think it is or is not commercial.

[KYBill]

Originally Posted by TenPercenter

FYI Silk's made it clear he's only selling off his personal set(s) after going to a different set. He says he's selling them at a loss.

So the casino charged him over $2.00 for a $1.00 chip?

His BIN is $199.00.

I heard about swamp land in Florida, but the real money is made with poker chips!

[imthatguy]

Originally Posted by KYBill

So the casino charged him over $2.00 for a $1.00 chip?

His BIN is $199.00.

I heard about swamp land in Florida, but the real money is made with poker chips!

Maybe he didn't get them from the casino. Maybe he got them from someone who charged a premium. Did you think of that?

[develvjd-]

OK, so a personal classified ad is 100 chips. Let's make a commercial classified ad 300 chips (or x00 chips TBD). That way someone who wants to post an ad that most would consider commercial can do so, but at a premium. This makes them sponsors-lite or "sponsors for a day." Go ahead and post your "commercial" ad, but it'll cost you $3 or a bunch of posts to do so. The additional "cost" would tend to limit these commercial classifieds, the site then gets the benefit of 300 posts or $3, and the paying sponsors don't feel they're competing against someone getting a free ride.

Now, I know what you're all thinking: "develvjd- is an idiot. Who the h3ll would list their own ad as commercial and pay the extra tax? Who's gonna police this thing?"

Well, I figured that out too. How about a "Flag this post as Commercial" button on all personal Classified ads. If enough members flag the post as commercial, the ad is automatically changed to a commercial ad and the user is automatically deducted the additional 200 chips. This way the community can determine for itself what the is commercial on a case-by-case basis without tasking Mods. You guys have enough BS to deal with. Ten, then when you get a PM from an irate member about having his/her ad "upgraded" to commercial, you can say "Cry me a river, the rest of the community declared this ad commercial, not me."

[KYBill]

Originally Posted by imthatguy

Maybe he didn't get them from the casino. Maybe he got them from someone who charged a premium. Did you think of that?

He lives close to the casino and instead of picking them up he pays someone $2.00 a chip to get them for him ?

Come on guys, this is to funny.


Anyone want to guess what his very first chip talk post was for?

[links_slayer]

Originally Posted by TenPercenter

FYI Silk's made it clear he's only selling off his personal set(s) after going to a different set. He says he's selling them at a loss.

Sure. And I tell you I always make a complete stop at a stop sign, so it must be true.

[ACE'S FULL]

Originally Posted by TenPercenter

Right, that's the kinda thing we dont want to deny. But when does it cross the line? What kind of wording could be used to denote the difference?

The only problem that I see with this is no matter what is decided its going to have a subjectiveness to it. Meaning what I think is commercial and what others may think are two different things. I don't know if there is a solution other than what we have in place.

Other way to look at this is to look at the recent Bud Jones GB- many of those chips were bought with the sole intent to resell at a profit... Is that a commercial transaction? To some it is and others its not, thats where this rule is open for interpretation and where it can become very gray.

KYBill pointed out a reference to another member selling casino $1 checks at 2X face value when we know he lives right close to the casino- check his posts he was advertising that he could buy them buy the rack. Is that commercial?

The whole point is whatever is decided needs to be very clear and concise, no gray, no subjectiveness & no room for interpretation.

[Nexttime]

Silly question....

I don't spend much time at the chipboard site. I've visited maybe a dozen times looking for Pussycat agogo chips compared to clicking the new post button maybe a dozen times a day here.


So, for those people who spend alot of time at the chipboard, it seems that many of the members buy and sell quite a few chips. But the dollar amount doesn't seem that high for many of chips.
So, is it commercial to sell a high volume of chips or high value of the chips?
Or is it the markup on the chip?
Is mixing up the trading of chips in with the selling of chips enough of an offset that commercial doesn't override the community aspect?

Did I post too early before having my coffee?

[palmimports]

Originally Posted by Nexttime

Silly question....

I don't spend much time at the chipboard site. I've visited maybe a dozen times looking for Pussycat agogo chips compared to clicking the new post button maybe a dozen times a day here.


So, for those people who spend alot of time at the chipboard, it seems that many of the members buy and sell quite a few chips. But the dollar amount doesn't seem that high for many of chips.
So, is it commercial to sell a high volume of chips or high value of the chips?
Or is it the markup on the chip?
Is mixing up the trading of chips in with the selling of chips enough of an offset that commercial doesn't override the community aspect?

Did I post too early before having my coffee?

It may be time on a variation on a theme so to speak--
there are those who INFREQUENTLY sell something- those who always sell things ( sponsers) and those that want to be in the middle becaause they dont want to spend 150..00 give or take a month to become a sponser- they just may not be able to afford it- but they aspire to try and make some money--
So perhaps offering some members a way to sell items, NOT have to become a paid sponser AND somehow make it feaasable to allow them to sell things AND support the site somehow may be in order.

My two cents

[JCTC]

Perhaps a way to prevent "commercial sales" is to limit the number of sales someone can post within a certain time period. This would allow people to sell, but it would constrain it in a way that someone couldn't be doing it as a business.