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Old 08-10-2005, 02:52 PM
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Lays down a set of 10's!?

Did anyone see the WSOP Lake Tahoe circuit event last night when (I think his name was Todd Reed?) layed down a set of 10's either on the turn or the river against two other players in the pot and could figure out what he was thinking?

I can't remember the betting (I think a bet of $30k was up to him) but the hands that were held by the other players and what was on the board did not add up to a lay down by any means.

What was classic was he announced to Phil Ivey that he blew it and had a set of 10's...Ivey looks at him and says, dude, no you didn't. If I'm laying down a set of 10's in that situation, I'll pound my head against the wall later...but, I'm certainly not telling Phil Ivey about it.
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The laydown was a little bit chicken s**t but there were four two a straight and two betters in the pot with him. He read the straight into somebody I guess. Your right, his big goof was telling the table about it.
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He laid those 10's down on a the turn.. and if I remember correctly it was only 3 to a straight at that point (it hit 4 to the straight on the river).

He was first to act, and I was surprised he checked his set of 10's. I was thinking he was going to check raise and then he throws it way when someone bet... crazy!!

I'm sure he's kicking himself and his friends are teasing him quit a bit about that.
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I wasn't paying attention for the whole hand, but my initial thought was ESPN got the hand wrong?
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I wasn't paying attention for the whole hand, but my initial thought was ESPN got the hand wrong?
that's kind of what i suspected too. lisandro wasn't showing his cards very well, and they were constructing them after the fact. isn't it possible that the guy with TT didn't show well enough, and they guessed, or believed what he told Ivey? maybe he had two pair and lied to look weak.
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On the other hand, how weak did Ivey look headsup? That really shocked me. Even DrawMonkey wouldn't have made those calls. (well, at least not 1 or two of them)
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On the other hand, how weak did Ivey look headsup? That really shocked me. Even DrawMonkey wouldn't have made those calls. (well, at least not 1 or two of them)
Honestly, Ivey played like crap all game. He should've been out on the 1st hand. I can't beleive Allesandro (sp) didn't call him with his pocket 10s. I think he put him on Jacks.
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Did anyone see the WSOP Lake Tahoe circuit event last night when (I think his name was Todd Reed?) layed down a set of 10's either on the turn or the river against two other players in the pot and could figure out what he was thinking?
heh, maybe he accidentally hit the wrong button....
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While I'm not saying that I would have laid that set down, I can see a couple of different reasonable lines of thinking that he may have been considering.

1. after he checked there was a bet AND a call and if he had read Sklansky's Theory of Poker he would have to consider that while the bet doesn't necessarily amount to much, the call with another person left to act behind should make him believe that someone has a big hand. Based on the cards on the board someone could have already made a straight8, made a higher set, or even have a reasonable draw to a str8.

Couple that with the fact this is the final table and moving up just one more spot equals more money, and I can see why he might decide not to gamble right there.

I wouldn't have folded, but I can see why someone in that situation might.

I definitely wouldn't have said anything about it, and I'd probably change my name and phone number after the showing. You just know he is going to get some major harassment!
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On the other hand, how weak did Ivey look headsup? That really shocked me. Even DrawMonkey wouldn't have made those calls. (well, at least not 1 or two of them)
Honestly, Ivey played like crap all game. He should've been out on the 1st hand. I can't beleive Allesandro (sp) didn't call him with his pocket 10s. I think he put him on Jacks.
sold! he made a read-specific play on a guy he has lots of experience with. i don't know what was going on headsup, but for the first 45 minutes ivey kicked ass at that table.
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