[yeltzen]

I'm assuming this was a repeat, but WHAT THE EFF at the guy flipping his cards over on the last hand (before the hand was over) and then calling the river all-in anyways? I mean, the guy can see you have a full house, you dope, and he went all-in anyways. Chances are pretty good you're beat. You don't need to try and save face by doing something incredibly stupid.

[tikipirate]

Originally Posted by yeltzen

I'm assuming this was a repeat, but WHAT THE EFF at the guy flipping his cards over on the last hand (before the hand was over) and then calling the river all-in anyways? I mean, the guy can see you have a full house, you dope, and he went all-in anyways. Chances are pretty good you're beat. You don't need to try and save face by doing something incredibly stupid.

I was wondering the same thing. Big screw up flipping the cards, but no need to compound it by making a call when you are beat 99% of the time. Guess he thought it was a bluff?

[yeltzen]

Originally Posted by tikipirate

I was wondering the same thing. Big screw up flipping the cards, but no need to compound it by making a call when you are beat 99% of the time. Guess he thought it was a bluff?

LOL he says "you have the ace, huh?" Then calls. WTF!

[JM]

Not a repeat, that was new.

I was thinking about that hand too, it could have been the biggest bluff of the year if he didn't have the ace. The guy knows he's up against a pro, and that he could be bs'ing him or splitting with him even. I wonder if it really was as quick a decision as they showed or if he actually had to think about it for a while. I would have taken as long as they'd let me take before deciding that one. If it weren't a pro, then I think the fold is easier, but it could be that he felt like such a fool he just wanted to get outta there. Take the 2nd place money and run.

[yeltzen]

Originally Posted by JM

Not a repeat, that was new.

I was thinking about that hand too, it could have been the biggest bluff of the year if he didn't have the ace. The guy knows he's up against a pro, and that he could be bs'ing him or splitting with him even. I wonder if it really was as quick a decision as they showed or if he actually had to think about it for a while. I would have taken as long as they'd let me take before deciding that one. If it weren't a pro, then I think the fold is easier, but it could be that he felt like such a fool he just wanted to get outta there. Take the 2nd place money and run.

I think it was the latter. Still. I could understand if you had top pair or something there instead of a full house. Then, maybe the guy is making a play. But he sees you have the third nuts. He knows you have a pretty big hand. Is he really going to pull that in that situation? He would have to have balls the size of elephants.

[guinness]

I remember the hand online after it took place. They really dressed up the situation as more awkward in online news than it unfolded on TV in my opinion but...

To assume it was a no-brainer to fold on the all-in isn't black and white. People bluff and given the awkward situation I can surely see how he could have translated the bet as a potential bluff...or at least give him some consideration that its possible. For public opinion, this boils down to two scenarios:

1] You're brilliant to call and win
2] You're a donkey to call and lose

Skepticism aside, you have to consider that this happened at the tail end of a 4 day poker marathon. Plus Johnny was really grinding him down leading up to it...its almost like Erick (I think that was his name) was admitting defeat before that hand. The episode where Scotty Nguyen blew his massive chip lead and went out in 4th (IIRC) was more crazy to me. Its true Erick was way too loose at the final table but his one call there wasn't totally out of the ordinary.

[Couga]

Can someone break this hand down for me? Who had what, what was the board, and betting.

I saw the whole show last night but I fell asleep after the dude who won at the Atlantis a couple years ago was knocked out in 3rd. I didn't see the money presentation... I guess I fell asleep right after the knockout during the commercial. Anyway, can someone let me know about this hand and please god, don't tell me that the calling station Lucky Chuck won.

- Couga

[yeltzen]

Originally Posted by Couga

Can someone break this hand down for me? Who had what, what was the board, and betting.

I saw the whole show last night but I fell asleep after the dude who won at the Atlantis a couple years ago was knocked out in 3rd. I didn't see the money presentation... I guess I fell asleep right after the knockout during the commercial. Anyway, can someone let me know about this hand and please god, don't tell me that the calling station Lucky Chuck won.

- Couga

I don't really remember the preflop action, but Chuck had Q7, John had A2 or something like that. Flop was 3 7 3. John checks, Chuck bets, John calls. Turn is an A. John checks, Chuck bets, John calls. Chuck inexplicably flips his cards over like the hand is done. He gets warned by the hand continues. River is a 3. John immediately goes all-in. Chuck calls and loses.

[JM]

Originally Posted by yeltzen

I don't really remember the preflop action, but Chuck had Q7, John had A2 or something like that. Flop was 3 7 3. John checks, Chuck bets, John calls. Turn is an A. John checks, Chuck bets, John calls. Chuck inexplicably flips his cards over like the hand is done. He gets warned by the hand continues. River is a 3. John immediately goes all-in. Chuck calls and loses.

I believe preflop was limp in for John. At the turn Chuck bet $1Mil and got called. Then he flipped and immediately realized what he did.

[yeltzen]

This generated about 3% of the discussion I thought it would.