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08-07-2006, 09:12 PM
|  | World Series Final Table | | Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: TN
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Chips: 2,456 | | | 8/7 Hsp I was pretty entertained as usual. I was quite shocked by our finale with KK slow-played all the way. I've been looking to find a spot to play AA that way against an ultra-aggressive player. I guess when you're Doyle Brunson you can take home a $100,000 pot with KK with three calls and no re-raises.
I was pretty irritated GSN adverstised this episode featuring Gus Hansen; he joined the table at 9:48 according to the TV Guide channel. Wow, talk about a main attraction(sarcasm). At least we'll see him play the entire next episode.
How about the teaser for the next episode? They said it was going to have the biggest pot featured to this point. I assume they meant in the entirety of the show and not just the 2nd season. Wasn't the Greenstein/Farha pot over $350,000? Anyone remember the exact dollar amount? | | Sponsored Links | | 
08-07-2006, 09:14 PM
|  | World Series Champ | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Lakewood, CO Age: 37
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Chips: 1,861 | | | Re: 8/7 Hsp hehe, that's gonna be great.
Well, it's the biggest because Hansen bought in for $400,000 and we hear him say "All In. I'm All In." or something to that effect. When he says it he has what looks like his starting stack in front of him, although they were unracked I think.
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08-07-2006, 09:17 PM
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Chips: 256 | | | Re: 8/7 Hsp The hand they're talking about in the next episode was spoiled in Daniel Negreanu's blog for anyone that keeps up with it. If you don't mind any spoilers, I suggest checking it out and reading the hands he posts about in High Stakes 2. Crazy stuff for Daniel. | 
08-07-2006, 09:20 PM
|  | World Series Final Table | | Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: TN
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Chips: 2,456 | | | Re: 8/7 Hsp Here's Greenstein's comments on Hansen:
"Best game: Triple-draw lowball and no-limit hold'em tournaments
Weakness: With only a couple of years experience, he jumped into the highest stake games against the toughest players
Gus is often mischaracterized as a hyper-aggressive player when he is actually an active or loose player. He plays a lot of pots and his success is a combination of this volatile style and good decision-making after the flop.
I play with Gus in side games where one million dollar swings are very rare, yet I have seen Gus get stuck a million and get even in the same session -- three different times!" | 
08-08-2006, 01:58 PM
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Chips: 67 | | | Re: 8/7 Hsp Why did that Fillippi guy get on Elezra about spreading the pot? Seemed like a small thing to get all defensive about.
Also, what do you guys think about running it twice? If I was Brunson I don't know if I would have ran it twice against Elezra's AK. | 
08-08-2006, 02:05 PM
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Chips: 1,861 | | | Re: 8/7 Hsp That guy was a complete nit, huh? He's trying to be a rule nazi about the "dealer can't tell you how much is there in NL/limit, only PL" rule, which interestingly enough, doesn't seem to apply at a game this size. Daniel N was pretty adamant that the players could get this information "anywhere". I guess when you play this high, small rules are different.
I think Brunson agreed to run it twice as a courtesy to someone he considers an inferior player. He knows he has the best of it and, "It's hard to win it twice with 7's." I'm sure it was just to keep the attitude light. Say he refuses, breaks the opponent and then there's some tension. Not good for gamb00ling.
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08-08-2006, 02:10 PM
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Chips: 2,140 | | | Re: 8/7 Hsp Amnon thought that Eli had asked the dealer to count the pot, which he didn't. Eli had asked something like "How much is in the pot", which, in NL games, usually means the dealer will spread the pot out so the player can eyeball how much is in there, but the dealer is not allowed to count down the pot in a NL game (usually, although house rules apply). Amnon thought that the dealer was going to count down the exact pot, so he freaked out. Daniel then explained that Eli only meant to spread the pot, and told Fillipi that the dealer understood the request. Small talk then ensued with Amnon dragging on SMALL questions so as not to look like an idiot for making a BIG deal about an assumption.
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08-08-2006, 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by smoore
I think Brunson agreed to run it twice as a courtesy to someone he considers an inferior player. He knows he has the best of it and, "It's hard to win it twice with 7's." I'm sure it was just to keep the attitude light. Say he refuses, breaks the opponent and then there's some tension. Not good for gamb00ling. | really? being brunson doesn't make you better at races...seems like running it twice is a natural there. | 
08-08-2006, 02:17 PM
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Chips: 1,861 | | | Re: 8/7 Hsp You're correct, of course, about racing but don't forget: Brunson was the guy who did a prop bet back in the day where he took 22 and his opponent took AK. They ran it LOTS of times, the sucker claiming that AK would win more.
Probabilites being what they are, Brunson got a nice chunk of change from the guy that night.
edit: oh yeah, my point.... If I were Doyle I would consider Elezra an inferior player and want to keep him and his 'roll in the game.
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08-08-2006, 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by smoore You're correct, of course, about racing but don't forget: Brunson was the guy who did a prop bet back in the day where he took 22 and his opponent took AK. They ran it LOTS of times, the sucker claiming that AK would win more.
Probabilites being what they are, Brunson got a nice chunk of change from the guy that night.
edit: oh yeah, my point.... If I were Doyle I would consider Elezra an inferior player and want to keep him and his 'roll in the game. | good piont..
Fillippi is a moron. Him and that other guy at the table just kills the game for me. They only play perm hands and this is the High stakes. I dont wanna see AK vs AQ with these kids.
Elezra is a good player, But He seems to make Bad choices at times (who doesn't?) that gets him in trouble. He made a few bad moves in the PPT that cost him chips, but he still went pretty far in that tournament.
Next monday will be around a 200k pot vs gus and the kid of poker, Can't wait to see that!
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