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Old 07-28-2005, 07:04 PM
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[why are you talking to him like he is in kindergarden?
Using complete sentences with proper grammer and spelling doesn't mean you're talking down to someone.
w/e dude, i thought his post was quite dumb IMO. didnt really say much but you played this right and this right but blah blah
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[why are you talking to him like he is in kindergarden?
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w/e dude, i thought his post was quite dumb IMO. didnt really say much but you played this right and this right but blah blah

I'm sorry that my posts do not live up to your brilliant advice and exquisite explanations of your recommended play.

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Old 07-28-2005, 07:12 PM
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[why are you talking to him like he is in kindergarden?
Using complete sentences with proper grammer and spelling doesn't mean you're talking down to someone.
w/e dude, i thought his post was quite dumb IMO. didnt really say much but you played this right and this right but blah blah

I'm sorry that my posts do not live up to your brilliant advice and exquisite explanations of your recommended play.

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ok. i really didnt see what the big deal was with the hand, you are OOP in a 3-way pot with a ace high flop all of same suit. so i just said to check turn with the intent of folding to a bet. im not gonna talk alll this crap like you, when you say a 3xBB is solid, your bet is solid it shows strength, now your in a tough spot blah blah. when really this is a extremely easy hand to get away from
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ok. i really didnt see what the big deal was with the hand, you are OOP in a 3-way pot with a ace high flop all of same suit. so i just said to check turn with the intent of folding to a bet. im not gonna talk alll this crap like you, when you say a 3xBB is solid, your bet is solid it shows strength, now your in a tough spot blah blah. when really this is a extremely easy hand to get away from
Actually, he is in a tough spot on the turn. To get any the most information possible on his opponents hands, he is going to have to check the turn, yet that will detract from his image as the aggressor in this pot, and take away what little chance he had of winning it with a bet. And didn't I make the point that I couldn't see myself making the call?

But lets not turn this into some kind of flame war, I don't want the thread to go to sh*t before I can see the results.
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how are you in a tough spot on turn? You dont have to be the aggressor in a 3-way pot on this type of board out-of-position. The only thing tough is if your flush draw is good and I dont think it is but if your not sure you can check/call depending on bets to see the river.
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how are you in a tough spot on turn? You dont have to be the aggressor in a 3-way pot on this type of board out-of-position. The only thing tough is if your flush draw is good and I dont think it is but if your not sure you can check/call depending on bets to see the river.
If you are going to call to see the river, then why wouldn't you bet up to or around what you would call, and fold to a raise? That way, you end up paying the same ammount to see the river, and retain the image of a strong hand.
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without getting involved with all the drama, i agree with tom's line.

QQ just isn't so strong with that flop. you still have to bet, but then i'd consider my hand worthless after getting two callers. maybe they're fish and they called with nothing...but if they're that fishy then isn't one of them possibly holding a 5? so you have a possible boat, any A, possible made flushes...i'm not sure what i've got beat here.

and no reads? is there any question what to do?

it's just not worth it, IMO, to lose more money on the turn here. i check fold.
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how are you in a tough spot on turn? You dont have to be the aggressor in a 3-way pot on this type of board out-of-position. The only thing tough is if your flush draw is good and I dont think it is but if your not sure you can check/call depending on bets to see the river.
If you are going to call to see the river, then why wouldn't you bet up to or around what you would call, and fold to a raise? That way, you end up paying the same ammount to see the river, and retain the image of a strong hand.
Because usually you are going to get raised when you bet and your not going to push anyone off their hands. Check/calling is mroe effective in this spot to draw to your flush or Q and check/fold is fine too
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Check/calling is mroe effective in this spot to draw to your flush or Q and check/fold is fine too
Alright, I can agree with check/calling or check/folding, but from your first post I took it as a definite check/call.

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Check/calling is mroe effective in this spot to draw to your flush or Q and check/fold is fine too
Alright, I can agree with check/calling or check/folding, but from your first post I took it as a definite check/call.

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