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07-15-2005, 11:27 AM
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| | | tourny 11: a key hand.
too aggressive? or just right? results later.
POKERSTARS GAME #2105147721: TOURNAMENT #9961083, HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL III (25/50) - 2005/07/14 - 22:11:08 (ET)
Table '9961083 2' Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: Debaser555 (3133 in chips)
Seat 2: daveyboy808 (446 in chips)
Seat 3: kapiolani (2405 in chips)
Seat 4: Philly14 (1383 in chips)
Seat 5: mwfeldman (1625 in chips)
Seat 6: Seitz333 (674 in chips)
Seat 7: chicagosox (1891 in chips)
Seat 9: jammitdim (1798 in chips)
Philly14: posts small blind 25
mwfeldman: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to mwfeldman [9d 6h]
Seitz333: folds
chicagosox: folds
jammitdim: folds
mwfeldman said, "sure, gvive that bastage three way action"
Debaser555: folds
daveyboy808: folds
kapiolani: calls 50
Seitz333 said, "sorry, another game has my attention"
Philly14: calls 25
mwfeldman: checks
*** FLOP *** [5c 6d 9c]
Philly14: checks
mwfeldman: bets 100
kapiolani: folds
Philly14: raises 250 to 350
mwfeldman: raises 1225 to 1575 and is all-in
Philly14: calls 983 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [5c 6d 9c] [Tc]
*** RIVER *** [5c 6d 9c Tc] [Kc]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
removed showdown for purposes of discussion. |
07-15-2005, 11:31 AM
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| | Probably a reraise of 400 would have been better just in case he flopped a set which it looks like he did based on the action. I kinda don't like telling people I busted out with 69o. 69... haha.  |
07-15-2005, 11:34 AM
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| | | 78o or suited Ace of clubs (probably a small kicker, 5?) maybe set of 5's or 6's. I'm guessing you lost. |
07-15-2005, 11:36 AM
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| | | I agree a bigger post flop raise would have been better. Then fold to his reraise figuring he's got the straight.
I had a similar situation earyl with daveyboy's dad - flopped 2 pair, didn't raise enough on the flop, let him catch a straight and then called him down for a bunch of chips. |
07-15-2005, 11:42 AM
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07-15-2005, 01:59 PM
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My thinking is scary flop make a scarier bet Pot+
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07-15-2005, 02:39 PM
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| | | I would have play it almost the same way but I would have bet more than 100 on the flop. But I don't think that would have make a difference in the outcome. |
07-15-2005, 05:50 PM
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| | | You flop top two on a low, coordinated board with 3 limpers, including the SB. The pot's only 150, so I think the 100 bet is okay. Maybe bet the pot to slightly more discourage the flush draw and straight draws.
But you get check raised by the SB. Your oppenent is betting 1/4 of his chips here. Unless your opponent is ultra agressive with TPGK or a flush draw with 2 overs, he most likely would have to have the straight or bottom set here.
It's early in the tournament, and you'd have 1500 left if you fold. I saw the hand, but writing this out I may lay it down here. Too weak-tight? I'm not sure, but I would tend to respect the check-raise. If he's not scared of giving a free card on such a coordinated flop with no raisers, he's got to be strong. |
07-15-2005, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by SpaceMonkey You flop top two on a low, coordinated board with 3 limpers, including the SB. The pot's only 150, so I think the 100 bet is okay. Maybe bet the pot to slightly more discourage the flush draw and straight draws.
But you get check raised by the SB. Your oppenent is betting 1/4 of his chips here. Unless your opponent is ultra agressive with TPGK or a flush draw with 2 overs, he most likely would have to have the straight or bottom set here.
It's early in the tournament, and you'd have 1500 left if you fold. I saw the hand, but writing this out I may lay it down here. Too weak-tight? I'm not sure, but I would tend to respect the check-raise. If he's not scared of giving a free card on such a coordinated flop with no raisers, he's got to be strong. | Missed the check-raise part... good point.
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07-18-2005, 05:38 PM
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| | | Very tough hand. The flop bet of 100 was OK -- a pot-sized bet is likely not going to change this hand.
After the check-raise, I probably would have paused and thought hard, and 51% of the time I make your play, 49% of the time I lay down and move on, the final decision depending on my read of the player (none provided) and my mood. Its that close -- I could see him doing this with an overpair, a set, a straight, or a flush draw. |
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