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Old 05-28-2012, 03:34 AM
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What would you do with AA?

Hope you guys are all doing well.

Wanted to ask all of you...what you would do?

In a $345 buy in Tournament at The Bike, my poker playing friend was moved to my table 6-7 hours into the tourney with 25K in chips and 3 seats to my right. With a starting stack of 30K, I was able to build my stack to around 80K (avg chip stack was about 90K and 160/540 players left). My friend already went all in once and didn't get any callers. The hand in question (blinds 600/1200 or 800/1600), my friend was second to act and went All-In with about 25K . Fold, Fold, when I look at my cards, I see AA. With still 5-6 players to act (with about 3 players that had bigger stacks than me), I decided to go all-in. My 2 reasons to go all-in was 1) to protect my friend by eliminating multiple players that could take her out if I flat called, and 2) eliminate anyone that could possibly suck out on my AA. No one else called and I went heads up against my friend. My AA held up, sending my friend to the rail.

My question is simple. Would you fold pocket AA's, giving your friend the possibility of potentially winning the pot and doubling up, or would you have done the same, or something a little different?

Thanks for your feedback. I free rolled into this tourney by winning a seat in the Mega Sat. I placed 72...18 away from the money.

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Old 05-28-2012, 04:31 AM
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Re: What would you do with AA?

Simple jam. You and your friend are there to make money I assume. If he doesn't like it ask him what he would've done. And mistakes can be made also, imagine you muck your cards and they hit something, flip over then the whole table starts yelling collusion(which is really what your suggesting)
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Old 05-28-2012, 05:06 AM
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Re: What would you do with AA?

I agree, but this type of situation does come up. I once played in small tourney at Harrahs that had a final table of 7 friends and us 3 other players. It took me an additional 3 hours to eliminate everyone because the friends were not betting when playing against each other.

If It were the other way around, I wouldn't have minded if she shoved all in on my KQ with her AA. A raise would have achieved the same thing, but why raise to to 50K when I have only 90K. Yes I want action with my AA, and if it was a random person, I would have probably just called the 25K in hopes of getting more people into the pot to maximize my money. With a friend shoving all-in, I was trying to eliminate the additional players in the hand that could potentially beat her. To me, the only choice was to go all-in, or fold. Going all-in with 80K is a lot easier for other players to fold high pairs than a 25K call , esp with 5-6 players left to act. After asking her later what she would have done, she said I shouldnt be afraid of my AA and should just call as she wanted more action to get more chips than a double up. What if a KK or QQ called, that gives her much lower win %

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Old 05-28-2012, 08:09 AM
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I will never, ever, ever consider the possibility of pondering the thought of maybe possibly considering folding there. Ever. Toast and JAM!
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Old 05-28-2012, 08:44 AM
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Re: What would you do with AA?

I think Daveyboy is in love.
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Re: What would you do with AA?

Well Hero is trying to compare apples to tire irons here. Help out a friend (who happens to be of the opposit sex) or try to win money . . . .

As it turns out, I think Hero can do both by flatting and hope for more callers. Any board that turns KQ into winners over AA is very likely to beat other callers as well - your Friend would have top two pair as weakest holding that beats AA.

What you don't do is flat, get callers and then check it down. Hero is pushing anything but the most nasty boards.

Folding is wrong on several levels - and it might not even improve your relationship with your friend who happens to be a girl.

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Re: What would you do with AA?

Snap shove with the hopes of knocking out friend. Makes for a better story later in life ("of course he shows aces and my stomach turns inside out").
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Re: What would you do with AA?

You played it correctly. Poker is not a team sport.
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Re: What would you do with AA?

No friends in poker. If unsure about this, watch and listen when Guinness, Berg, and Courage go drinky, drinky then play PLO late night.
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Old 05-28-2012, 10:31 AM
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Re: What would you do with AA?

Man, there are simply no sympathetic romantics here.

Okay, let's clear a couple of things up based on the words of your female friend.

She said you: "shouldnt be afraid of my AA and should just call." Translation: Suck it up and be a man, and don't worry about me. "as she wanted more action to get more chips than a double up." This last part can be interpreted two ways. A) She wants action, unfortunately, not the kind of action you would like to give her. B) She likes three-ways.

And regarding your query?? "What if a KK or QQ called, that gives her much lower win % ?" You think too much.


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