[jldecarlo]

Wynn poker room Sunday night. 1-3 NL. It's a funny game, played with $3 chips. Unlimited buy-in, so it plays pretty deep.

I have worked a $300 buy-in to $550, and I'm in the hand against a guy from the Bay Area with black fingernails and giant horns through his ears. Nice guy, but odd looking to a guy from small town Texas. He is very loose, playing nearly every hand, even raised. Betting most of them. (He plays just like HQ) He has just lost two $300+ hands, but seems to have settled down to his normal level of agresiveness. He probably has $1500 in chips/cash in front of him.

He is under the gun and straddles, of course. I have 5c 3c and call. One other caller then the button (weak player) raises from $6 to $12. Everybody calls, four player to the flop. The flop is Qh 5d 3s. Bay Area Dude (BAD) checks, I bet a half stack ($30). Folded to BAD who calls. Turn is Ah. BAD checks, I bet a stack ($60) and he thinks a bit, then tosses two $100 bills in the pot.

I have about $450 behind, what to do? Easy fold?

L

[abby99]

Sorry, I'm stuck trying to imagine a dude with giant horns through his ears to focus on the hand. No cell phone photo?

[NoFear]

Holding a 5c 3c card what do you expect from that hand, you got two lower pair. He is betting the A's so I would have put him on AK, AJ or flush draw.

I go all-in.... and pray that doesn't pair the A or the Q on the river.

[ontheuptick]

Originally Posted by jldecarlo

He is under the gun and straddles, of course. I have 5c 3c and call. One other caller then the button (weak player) raises from $6 to $12. Everybody calls, four player to the flop. The flop is Qh 5d 3s. Bay Area Dude (BAD) checks, I bet a half stack ($30). Folded to BAD who calls. Turn is Ah. BAD checks, I bet a stack ($60) and he thinks a bit, then tosses two $100 bills in the pot.

I have about $450 behind, what to do? Easy fold?

I don't think it's an easy fold at all.

Here are my thoughts on the hand:
1. He can't have a huge hand, or he would have reraised preflop, if he truly is as aggressive as it sounds. That rules out AA, QQ, and AQ.
2. If he has a set of 5's, why doesn't he either lead out on the flop, or check-raise you on the flop?
3. That leaves me with these hands: A3, A5, Ax (one pair), Qx, or nothing but trying to rep an ace. I can't see him calling the flop bet with A10 or A8, etc, unless he was doing it with the intention of stealing the pot on the turn. So I'll rule out Ax. Most likely in seems to be either A5 or something like QJ or Q10.

I don't think it's an easy fold at all.

[Button Potato]

For some reason those $3 bother me. It takes too long for me to do the math. Your move? FOLD.

[ontheuptick]

Originally Posted by NoFear

He is betting the A's so I would have put him on AK, AJ or flush draw.

Doubt it, at least I highly doubt he had AK. He would have surely reraised it preflop with AK. He could have AJ, but why would he call on the flop with AJ? I think those hands are much less likely than something like QJ for top pair - or JT of hearts (for the flush and gutter).

[whataboutj]

I agree with uptick that BAD is making a move on the pot - he makes a slightly bigger than pot size re-raise after your $60 bet. I believe he has a low pair like a 5 or 3 and thinks you are making a weak c-bet/bluff and is trying to take the hand down. I say call or move all in.

All that being said -- I am not a good cash game player so take my thoughts with a grain of salt

BTW - was BAD some sort of musician from CA? anyone famous (or semi famous?) Actually sounds like it could been someone from the band disturbed
J

[Harlequin011]

Oh boy! This is fun, I get to play it like I was playing you! It took me about an 30 min to figure out how I would play a hand with you. Cautiously. I figured you for a decent player. And I know you think I'm a maniac. The insta-call all-in helped that one out.

Here are the hands that I play if I were BAD.

Pre-flop

suited connectors, low-middle pairs, 1 or 2 gappers.

Turn,

This is a little hairy... I'm not jamming JLD with anything but a strong hand. And I'm betting a ton because I'm hoping my image will grant me some action.

OR

I picked up a draw, or a two-way draw and I want the pot NOW! I'll take the pot for what it's worth or I'll be able to suffer another card that will bring me a big hand. Plus, I still have the option to raise.

JLD, if I were BAD, you'd have to call or shove. Be prepared for an insta-shove bluff on the river. Call if it comes up rags.

I'm thinking he has something like Kh 4h and is looking for a quick win. He is putting pressure on you without having a big hand, but I doubt he is folding to your raise.

insta-edit: I just thought about what I would do with a large range of hands. I'm capable of getting in with AQ, but I'm betting out, in case the weak player raised with KK or AA. I'm really on the fence here JLD. I know I'm only betting you like this to get paid, but BAD may not know you like I do.

[xtwalker]

Originally Posted by ontheuptick

Doubt it, at least I highly doubt he had AK. He would have surely reraised it preflop with AK. He could have AJ, but why would he call on the flop with AJ? I think those hands are much less likely than something like QJ for top pair - or JT of hearts (for the flush and gutter).

Easy shove... the only hand you can realistically put him on that you are behind is A3 or A5. Q3 and Q5 are possible, but far less likely (why would he check it twice?) If he has one of them, oh well. "Rebuy!"

A6-AJ are most likely, and they will pay you off after he put that much money in.

I would bet my stack that he tried floating you from OOP and made a worse made hand, or that he is just flat out making a move with a shabby Q or worse.

[jmc]

Is it really an easy fold given that he is so aggro? Have you seen him take this betting pattern (check/call, check/raise) with anything other than a premium hand?

Pot is $110 on the turn and you bet $60

I'm not sure why you bet the turn if you were intending to fold to a raise. You think he slowplayed a set? Why can't he have AK or KhTh/KhJh or some other random garbage? Maybe he reads your 1/2 bet on the turn as weakness. Is he the type of player that might try to attack weakness in such a manner?