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Old 06-24-2008, 12:46 AM
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Omaha-8, bet the river?

PokerStars 0.02/0.04 Omaha/8 (8 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 9, 7, A, 3.
UTG calls, 2 folds, MP2 calls, Hero calls, 1 fold, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (5 SB) 5, 6, 8 (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets, SB folds, BB folds, UTG calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (4 BB) A (3 players)
UTG checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets, UTG calls, MP2 calls.

River: (7 BB) 2 (3 players)
UTG checks, MP2 checks, hero...?
Final Pot: 7 BB

I figured that if someone backdoored a flush or the nut low 34xx they should bet. Plus, i have a legit low. Bet?
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Re: Omaha-8, bet the river?

Your legit low, probably got counterfieted....anyone with 24/34/25 or so on just took low from you. You have a good shot at high...however with the flush possiblity If you bet and someone did backdoor a week flush you just lost. Most likely these two will call you down with thier low hands and if one of them has a strong flush he will probably raise, then what do you do. One of them might have been chasing the spade flush and could fold to another bet...but your still dealing with a third player. I would check and hope they both just have a low with no flush so they get quartered while your hand held up for half the pot. But I'm more of a cautious player when scare cards come out in Omaha. There is a reason these guys kept paying money to get to the river and now your hand has lost some strength.

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Re: Omaha-8, bet the river?

Do not bet! Call if you can see it cheap.

your legit low has some counterfeit issues. The high is in jeopardy. Proceed with caution and be prepared to curse at the screen.
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Your legit low, probably got counterfieted....anyone with 24/34/25 or so on just took low from you. You have a good shot at high...however with the flush possiblity If you bet and someone did backdoor a week flush you just lost. Most likely these two will call you down with thier low hands and if one of them has a strong flush he will probably raise, then what do you do. One of them might have been chasing the spade flush and could fold to another bet...but your still dealing with a third player. I would check and hope they both just have a low with no flush so they get quartered while your hand held up for half the pot. But I'm more of a cautious player when scare cards come out in Omaha. There is a reason these guys kept paying money to get to the river and now your hand has lost some strength.

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My low is 6532A

24 has 6542A (i win)
23 has 6532A (tie)
25 has 8652A (i win)

34 is 5432A the nuts, and I'd be confused why nobody would bet that on the river...???
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Re: Omaha-8, bet the river?

I don't like your turn bet - that's when you lost the low. The river card helps you, but I still wouldn't bet it.

You're right that if someone had the better low, you would think that they would bet and that would hearten me to put out a bet there, but honestly, in that spot, if I have the best low, great, take down the pot right there with a check. Someone could have watched you bet the whole way and figured you to bet the river so they could check-raise. I would just check behind.
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I don't like your turn bet - that's when you lost the low. The river card helps you, but I still wouldn't bet it.

You're right that if someone had the better low, you would think that they would bet and that would hearten me to put out a bet there, but honestly, in that spot, if I have the best low, great, take down the pot right there with a check. Someone could have watched you bet the whole way and figured you to bet the river so they could check-raise. I would just check behind.
he has the nut high on the turn

I say bet the river. You are going to have at least half the pot a large majority of the time and the whole pot a decent amount. Somebody with 2 pair or a set may call down thinking you just have the low. You will win value bets more often than check raised by someone who has both the nut low and diamonds here
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Re: Omaha-8, bet the river?

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PokerStars 0.02/0.04 Omaha/8 (8 handed) Poker Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 9, 7, A, 3.
UTG calls, 2 folds, MP2 calls, Hero calls, 1 fold, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (5 SB) 5, 6, 8 (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, UTG checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets, SB folds, BB folds, UTG calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (4 BB) A (3 players)
UTG checks, MP2 checks, Hero bets, UTG calls, MP2 calls.

River: (7 BB) 2 (3 players)
UTG checks, MP2 checks, hero...?
Final Pot: 7 BB

I figured that if someone backdoored a flush or the nut low 34xx they should bet. Plus, i have a legit low. Bet?

Easy bet - yes you MAY be quartered, but very unlikely. At low limits - people jam with only nut low. Lack of any action means that you have a much higher % chance of the scoop - so bet away. If you only part of the pot was the st8 or the nut low (you had a locked low or a non-nut but strong high ONLY) - then check.


Big edit - thought you had the nut low.

Check - the counterfeited low takes a ton away from your hand.
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I don't like your turn bet - that's when you lost the low. The river card helps you, but I still wouldn't bet it.
but he had the nut high - with extremely passive players (no indication that he is splitting the high)
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but he had the nut high - with extremely passive players (no indication that he is splitting the high)
Sorry, wasn't looking at high - obviously, I got no prob with your bet there.
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Sorry, wasn't looking at high - obviously, I got no prob with your bet there.
thought so - heck no reason to be sorry - look at my first response , I thought he had the nut low and should have been jamming
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