[BrettButter]

This sparred a little debate at the table. My main questions: is opening with a raise ok? Is capping ok, based on the fact the opposition has a short stack, or should I avoid capping to re-evaluate after the flop?

Full Tilt Poker Game #5312131430: ChipTalk.net MMN #1 (40218180), Table 2 - 100/200 - Limit Hold'em - 22:28:04 ET - 2008/02/18
Seat 1: Badger (2,055)
Seat 2: AquamanCT (2,295)
Seat 3: PhilTheThrill14 (2,265)
Seat 4: w16227 (502)
Seat 5: Double Eagle (1,555)
Seat 6: BrettButter (4,625)
Seat 7: FSU88 (588 )
Seat 8: Pebbles98 (1,390)
w16227 posts the small blind of 50
Double Eagle posts the big blind of 100
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to BrettButter [7d 7c]
BrettButter raises to 200
FSU88 raises to 300
Pebbles98 folds
Badger folds
AquamanCT folds
PhilTheThrill14 folds
w16227 folds
Double Eagle folds
BrettButter raises to 400
FSU88 calls 100
*** FLOP *** [6d 2c 5h]
BrettButter bets 100
FSU88 raises to 188, and is all in
BrettButter calls 88
FSU88 shows [Kh Kc]
BrettButter shows [7d 7c]
*** TURN *** [6d 2c 5h] [2d]
*** RIVER *** [6d 2c 5h 2d] [6c]
BrettButter: vnh
FSU88 shows two pair, Kings and Sixes
BrettButter shows two pair, Sevens and Sixes
FSU88 wins the pot (1,326) with two pair, Kings and Sixes
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1,326 | Rake 0
Board: [6d 2c 5h 2d 6c]
Seat 1: Badger didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: AquamanCT didn't bet (folded)
Seat 3: PhilTheThrill14 (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: w16227 (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 5: Double Eagle (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 6: BrettButter showed [7d 7c] and lost with two pair, Sevens and Sixes
Seat 7: FSU88 showed [Kh Kc] and won (1,326) with two pair, Kings and Sixes
Seat 8: Pebbles98 didn't bet (folded)

[TheMightyJim2k]

based on stack sizes and the fact that he has less than 2BB after his 3-bet I think your cap and b/c on the flop is totally standard.

Especially because its FSU and he isn't going to get blinded off so you know he can have a lot of over card combos that you are ahead of.

[PhilTheThrill14]

Yeah - now that I see it on paper it really isn't that close. FSU just doesn't have the chips to make you go away once he 2-bets - so no problem with capping. Was hard to visualize during the game because I looked away for a few after you raised UTG (I clicked fold) and saw you capped and he called and then things went quick.

If he had more behind - then I think a cap is wrong - the question is, how much does he need behind where yoou need to think about this.....

[w16227]

both tmj and philly have it right on - stack sizes rule this hand and nothing out of the ordinary

fsu was shortstacked - you had chips to spare

Open raising in a horse tournament is NEVER wrong - in fact, open limping gets you in real trouble most of the time. After your open raise - the rest was academic.

[BrettButter]

This is less interesting than I thought I guess..I was prompted to post it here when we were talking about it so much. Sorry guys.

[abby99]

Originally Posted by BrettButter

This is less interesting than I thought I guess..I was prompted to post it here when we were talking about it so much. Sorry guys.

I caught a bit of the chat during the game (I was at the other table) but didn't get the chance to look up the hand; I was wondering what all the buzz was about. If nothing else, you've satisfied my curiosity.

[w16227]

Originally Posted by BrettButter

This is less interesting than I thought I guess..I was prompted to post it here when we were talking about it so much. Sorry guys.

No reason to be sorry - ask away...especially since there was so much discussion at the table. Mucho table discussion= uncertainty. Many hands look different when charted on paper (or the screen).