[xtwalker]

Just played this hand in a $10 tourney I am in to get more Omaha experience before my local casino starts playing $1/2 PLO....

At table for 15 minutes, no real reads at all....

Please let me know if the PF raise was good or horrible, and what I should do on my action on the flop... thanks.

Hand #50018532-7 at Sun1130pmA-007 (Pot Limit tournament Omaha)
Started at 20/Jan/08 23:41:19

biglabowski is at seat 0 with 2895.
branlin is at seat 1 with 1360.
scottyclark is at seat 2 with 2620.
aubordallo is at seat 3 with 895.
xtwalker is at seat 4 with 2700.
kccclark1998 is at seat 5 with 1375.
ISA4110 is at seat 6 with 1455.
Kiarr is at seat 7 with 1470.
Leadmaster is at seat 8 with 390.
shambo121 is at seat 9 with 1340.
The button is at seat 6.

Kiarr posts the small blind of 10.
Leadmaster posts the big blind of 15.
biglabowski: -- -- -- --
branlin: -- -- -- --
scottyclark: -- -- -- --
aubordallo: -- -- -- --
xtwalker: Ac 6c 2s Ad
kccclark1998: -- -- -- --
ISA4110: -- -- -- --
Kiarr: -- -- -- --
Leadmaster: -- -- -- --
shambo121: -- -- -- --
Pre-flop:

shambo121 calls. biglabowski calls. branlin folds.
scottyclark folds. aubordallo calls. xtwalker
raises to 100. kccclark1998 folds. ISA4110 folds.
Kiarr calls. Leadmaster folds. shambo121 calls.
biglabowski calls. aubordallo calls.
Flop (board: 2h 6d 4h):

Kiarr checks. shambo121 checks. biglabowski bets
515. aubordallo folds.

xtwalker ??????

[ipgyst]

Berman in SS2 says never raise Aces preflop in PLO. I don't know if I'd go that far, but he knows more about it than I do. Flop an Ace and you'll be rolling in chips because nobody will put you on Aces because you didn't raise them. That's his logic anyway. Shorthanded I think I couldn't resist raising them.

Your hand is junk after that flop. Fold.

[xtwalker]

Originally Posted by ipgyst

Berman in SS2 says never raise Aces preflop in PLO.

Glad you said that... I have the book, I should probably read a couple more sections in it....

I have played 3/6 O8 a few times, and the game is so soft where I play it that I have had only 2 losing sessions in 9. Makes me want to play more, but I know I really don't have much of a feel for the basics yet.

Thanks for the help.

[gmunny]

I agree wtih IP, fold unless you have a read on the bettor. He could easily flopped straight or trips. Plus you don't have the flush draw either, so you're only real out is another ace.

I don't mind raising preflop with AAsuited in cash games, but that's only after I've raised with a number of other hands (suited runners, suited aces, etc.). But it is true, many people will call your raise if they think you only raise with AA, cause they think they can stack you if they catch. Especially in PL high only.

[xtwalker]

Well, I just finished the tourney in 14th place out of 80. Someone caught a lucky turn card on me after they got the money in bad on the flop and that was all she wrote.

The guy that knocked me out told me he called "BC you didn't have any chips" when he called off 2/3 of his stack w no pair, and only a gut shot straight draw. He ran top pair into a flush two hands later and was knocked out himself.

[ipgyst]

Originally Posted by xtwalker

The guy that knocked me out told me he called "BC you didn't have any chips" when he called off 2/3 of his stack w no pair, and only a gut shot straight draw. He ran top pair into a flush two hands later and was knocked out himself.

Donkalicious. Sounds like a juicy tourney. I gotta get onto FT or P* and play in some of these donkaments with my fellow donks.

[cdnmoose]

Originally Posted by ipgyst

Berman in SS2 says never raise Aces preflop in PLO. I don't know if I'd go that far, but he knows more about it than I do. Flop an Ace and you'll be rolling in chips because nobody will put you on Aces because you didn't raise them. That's his logic anyway. Shorthanded I think I couldn't resist raising them.

Your hand is junk after that flop. Fold.

I rarely raise my AA. However the primary purpose in raising is to make sure you act last on the flop. You achieved that but it isn't a great board for you and hence with your position it is an easy fold.

[trutan]

Originally Posted by gmunny

Plus you don't have the flush draw either, so you're only real out is another ace.

You can actually add the two 6's and two 2's as they will boat him up. Although, he could still lose to a higher boat if a 2 hits.

Not that it matters much as I think a fold is the best play here anyway. Obv. this is a much better O8 starting hand than Omaha high. Not sure that I like the pf raise as it's apparent that it won't thin the field here. I much prefer raising with suited wrap-around (insert joke here) cards.

[Poboy]

Raising is fine as long as you raise other hands than AAxx DS. On the flop your hand is junk.

[DoubleDeuce]

Is this Omaha Hi or Omaha Hi/Lo?

Its a very nice hand for Hi/Lo but not very robust for Omaha Hi only. You have to think how the 4 cards work together to make good flop fits. The AA & A6s are obviously strong but 62, A2, A6 are pretty weak holdings.