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11-30-2007, 08:20 AM
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| | | A Hand from the 11/29 CT Tourny
Ok guys, I thought I would post this from last nights tourny.
Final table, eight players left, blinds at 300/600 with a ante of 50. You are dealt AcJs on the button. What do you do here?
(hand converter was not working for me) PokerStars Game #13553677393: Tournament #68518171, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (300/600) - 2007/11/29 - 23:48:59 (ET) Table '68518171 3' 9-max Seat #9 is the button>> Seat 1: mattythatguy (12070 in chips)>> Seat 2: w16227 (9245 in chips)>> Seat 3: Lucky 378 (8893 in chips)>> Seat 4: scottwire (3200 in chips)>> Seat 5: punk1o1 (3058 in chips)>> Seat 7: Seitz333 (12769 in chips)>> Seat 8: FSU88 (4760 in chips)>> Seat 9: tm55417 (10505 in chips)>> mattythatguy: posts the ante 50>> w16227: posts the ante 50>> Lucky 378: posts the ante 50>> scottwire: posts the ante 50>> punk1o1: posts the ante 50>> Seitz333: posts the ante 50>> FSU88: posts the ante 50>> tm55417: posts the ante 50>> mattythatguy: posts small blind 300>> w16227: posts big blind 600>> *** HOLE CARDS ***>> Dealt to tm55417 [Ac Js]>> Lucky 378: folds>> scottwire: raises 2550 to 3150 and is all-in>> punk1o1: folds>> Seitz333: folds>> FSU88: calls 3150>> tm55417: ?  |
11-30-2007, 08:54 AM
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| | | Re: A Hand from the 11/29 CT Tourny
Clear fold, at least to me. Anything else is less than 50% chance to win. On to the next hand. |
11-30-2007, 09:16 AM
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| | | Re: A Hand from the 11/29 CT Tourny
I have to agree with Tomb. Without FSU88's call, you may be able to entertain a call here. As is, Not only do you have a solid player pushing (albeit on a ss) but FSU88 just called leaving behind only 1510. To me, this says "I wouldn't mind additional callers". If that's the case, your AJ is dominated. |
11-30-2007, 09:51 AM
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I think I could fold this hand, too.
So what *do* you guys call/raise with here? I guess mine would be:
88+, AQ+. I'd probably fold 77, definitely 66. |
11-30-2007, 09:55 AM
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| | | Re: A Hand from the 11/29 CT Tourny
fold it up, place it in the box, wrap it, and send it away. The shove +smooth call = way way behind. Next hand.
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11-30-2007, 10:00 AM
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| | | Re: A Hand from the 11/29 CT Tourny
yeah, this is pretty easy. with 2 random players it's a fold. with scott as the first pusher, it's easy as pie. |
11-30-2007, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by JoseRijo  I think I could fold this hand, too.
So what *do* you guys call/raise with here? I guess mine would be:
88+, AQ+. I'd probably fold 77, definitely 66. | With a large stack and only 50 bucks invested in the pot, there's no reason IMO to get involved.
I do not play here with AQ, probably not even AK. One of 'em may have a pair and the other has Ax, so you're behind and some of your outs are gone. Plus there are others to play after you. YOU'RE BEHIND! DON'T DO IT!
Given the stacks and position in the tourney, I re-push only with AA and KK. Maybe that's overly conservative but the situation just doesn't call for jeopardizing your tourney right here. |
11-30-2007, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by jojobinks yeah, this is pretty easy. with 2 random players it's a fold. with scott as the first pusher, it's easy as pie. | Well, folding is what I did. Of course an A came on the flop which caused me to second guess my fold.
Jojo, if you get a chance, could you run this on Pokerstove. I would like to see what the number look like. Thanks...
Here is the rest of the hand... PokerStars Game #13553677393: Tournament #68518171, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (300/600) - 2007/11/29 - 23:48:59 (ET)ffice ffice" />>> Table '68518171 3' 9-max Seat #9 is the button>> Seat 1: mattythatguy (12070 in chips)>> Seat 2: w16227 (9245 in chips)>> Seat 3: Lucky 378 (8893 in chips)>> Seat 4: scottwire (3200 in chips)>> Seat 5: punk1o1 (3058 in chips)>> Seat 7: Seitz333 (12769 in chips)>> Seat 8: FSU88 (4760 in chips)>> Seat 9: tm55417 (10505 in chips)>> mattythatguy: posts the ante 50>> w16227: posts the ante 50>> Lucky 378: posts the ante 50>> scottwire: posts the ante 50>> punk1o1: posts the ante 50>> Seitz333: posts the ante 50>> FSU88: posts the ante 50>> tm55417: posts the ante 50>> mattythatguy: posts small blind 300>> w16227: posts big blind 600>> *** HOLE CARDS ***>> Dealt to tm55417 [Ac Js]>> Lucky 378: folds>> scottwire: raises 2550 to 3150 and is all-in>> punk1o1: folds>> Seitz333: folds>> FSU88: calls 3150>> tm55417: folds>> mattythatguy: folds>> w16227: folds>> *** FLOP *** [5d As 6s]>> FSU88 said, "double hammers">> *** TURN *** [5d As 6s] [Kh]>> *** RIVER *** [5d As 6s Kh] [Qh]>> *** SHOW DOWN ***>> scottwire: shows [2h 2s] (a pair of Deuces)>> FSU88: shows [7c 7h] (a pair of Sevens)>> FSU88 collected 7600 from pot>> |
11-30-2007, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by tomb1 Clear fold, at least to me. Anything else is less than 50% chance to win. On to the next hand. | Button - FOLD
you might have odds in the BB to take a shot - but why do anything now when there are also 2 left to act with what is not really all that strong of a hand.
Nobody in yet - then this is an easy raise hand. |
11-30-2007, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by tm55417 Jojo, if you get a chance, could you run this on Pokerstove. I would like to see what the number look like. | run what? what they had, or what their preflop ranges were? what they actually had isn't exactly the point, right? but as it was you were 40% or so. |
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