[BigKyle]

Playing in a PLO tourney down to 6 players. Chip counts approximately

Me: 85,000
Seat 2: 55,000
Seat 3: 60,000
Seat 4: 110,000
Seat 5: 50,000
Seat 6: 40,000

Blinds are 2000-4000. Top 4 is the money paid 40-60-100-200.

Seat 4 raises to 10,000. I call with . Seat 3 calls from the big blind. 32,000 in the pot. The flop comes . Seat 3 checks, Seat 4 checks, and I bet 20,000. Seat 3 folds, and Seat 4 calls. 72,000 in the pot. The turn is the . Seat 4 bets pot. I have 55,000 left. What should I do?

[corn2019]

Originally Posted by BigKyle

Playing in a PLO tourney down to 6 players. Chip counts approximately

Me: 85,000
Seat 2: 55,000
Seat 3: 60,000
Seat 4: 110,000
Seat 5: 50,000
Seat 6: 40,000

Blinds are 2000-4000. Top 4 is the money paid 40-60-100-200.

Seat 4 raises to 10,000. I call with . Seat 3 calls from the big blind. 32,000 in the pot. The flop comes . Seat 3 checks, Seat 4 checks, and I bet 20,000. Seat 3 folds, and Seat 4 calls. 72,000 in the pot. The turn is the . Seat 4 bets pot. I have 55,000 left. What should I do?

I would fold here. you are drawing to a heart only as he could have k 10 so your 9 and ace may be dead.

On the positive side you aren't a low stack and pretty much even with everyone but the bigstack.

I haven't played as much Omaha as I want to but I think I would also check the flop to see the turn for free. Your hand isn't good on the flop and are only drawing to one nut hand. and you don't want the situation that just happened.

Like I said - I am still a newbie at Omaha.

[BigKyle]

I, too, am a newbie at PLO. My thinking was that after two checks with such a dangerous board I could take the pot down with a bet. Even if I were called or raised, I had the hearts (except the jack) and the king as guaranteed outs--up to eleven of them I believe. The turn shove scares me though because the 3 is such an innocent card.

[Vince]

Originally Posted by corn2019

I would fold here. you are drawing to a heart only as he could have k 10 so your 9 and ace may be dead.

Which 9? Could still make the nut straight with a K.

edit: got it. sure, I guess a pair of aces or nines wouldn't be that a good hand there
I guess he at least had a king high straight or a set of queens or jacks. So a 7 on the river would be no good.
So your only chances are the four Kings (better three kings since he might have one) and the nine hearts left.
Obvious fold there.

[corn2019]

Originally Posted by Vince

Which 9? Could still make the nut straight with a K.

edit: got it. sure, I guess a pair of aces or nines wouldn't be that a good hand there
I guess he at least had a king high straight or a set of queens or jacks. So a 7 on the river would be no good.
So your only chances are the four Kings (better three kings since he might have one) and the nine hearts left.
Obvious fold there.

no 9 for a j high straight with his 10 7.

[plz]

My thoughts if I were playing this hand:

The pre-flop call is a good call, and the BB probably doesn't have much but only needs 6000 to call so his call is probably OK too.

On the flop, I know that I'm beaten. I consider it a gift when both opponents check, since my only winning hand is probably the heart flush (about 1.85:1) and I can get a free card by checking behind. I put seat 4 on some sort of a made hand plus a better straight draw. I would check here to get a free card, but that's just my personal thinking.

Seat 4's turn bet could be a bluff, but I consider that unlikely (less than 10%). More likely he has a made straight and didn't want to pay a lot to see the turn, but now that his straight is likely to be good, he bets knowing that a flush draw doesn't have the pot odds to call.

My flush draw is around 4.5:1 and I won't put the rest of my chips in the pot to chase it. With 55K in chips remaining I'm still a player and can wait for another hand.

[gmunny]

Originally Posted by plz

More likely he has a made straight and didn't want to pay a lot to see the turn, but now that his straight is likely to be good, he bets knowing that a flush draw doesn't have the pot odds to call.

I don't think I can put the guy on T9, becuase if someone flopped that straight, wouldn't they have bet or check-raised with that board? I would think even if he flopped a set, he would lead out. There are too many straights draws, plus the flush draw to check it. I'd want to pick up the pot or charge the drawers for it. I would probably put him on 2-pair or a semi-bluff. Anyway, that's my .02.

[w16227]

Tough one. Even though you have "odds" (9 flush and 2 st8 cards), you are putting your tourneylife on the line with just a draw. A nine might win it for you (giving more outs), but I would estimate that the villan flopped the st8 wnad was waiting to see if a flush draw hit.

I probably fold it. One of the tidbits from Sammy's new book - is that he does not play his draws as hard in an Omaha tournament. In a cash game with odds? easy call.

On the flop - check behind. You have a drawing hand and do not mind giving the free card. You may be able to see the river much cheaper as well.

Originally Posted by BigKyle

Playing in a PLO tourney down to 6 players. Chip counts approximately

Me: 85,000
Seat 2: 55,000
Seat 3: 60,000
Seat 4: 110,000
Seat 5: 50,000
Seat 6: 40,000

Blinds are 2000-4000. Top 4 is the money paid 40-60-100-200.

Seat 4 raises to 10,000. I call with . Seat 3 calls from the big blind. 32,000 in the pot. The flop comes . Seat 3 checks, Seat 4 checks, and I bet 20,000. Seat 3 folds, and Seat 4 calls. 72,000 in the pot. The turn is the . Seat 4 bets pot. I have 55,000 left. What should I do?

[hachkc]

Fold, too close to the money to call off my stack on a draw as the 2nd in chips. I probably check the flop also depending on the players as its tourney. In a cash game, I probably bet the flop.