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Old 10-10-2007, 03:05 AM
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Chasing an open ended st8t draw.

Would you call off all of your stack chasing an open ended straight draw?

Some history. $5 HU on P*. Hand number 8. I have pocket Tens, standard raise to 60. Dumb A$$ bumps it up to 100, I call the 40. Flop comes, I hit a set, he bets, I push. See below.

Did I make the wrong play? Should I have just called the flop and pushed the turn? I am not putting him on a flush draw and I'm trying to protect my set.

PokerStars Game #12541737665: Tournament #63650855, $5.00+$0.25 Hold'em No Limit - Match Round I, Level I (10/20) - 2007/10/10 - 02:09:58 (ET)
Table '63650855 1' 2-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: steviebucks (1370 in chips)
Seat 2: Irish Se7en (1630 in chips)
Irish Se7en: posts small blind 10
steviebucks: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Irish Se7en [Ts Tc]
Irish Se7en: raises 40 to 60
steviebucks: raises 40 to 100
Irish Se7en: calls 40
*** FLOP *** [9d Td 7c]
steviebucks: bets 223
Irish Se7en: raises 1307 to 1530 and is all-in
steviebucks: calls 1047 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [9d Td 7c] [2d]
*** RIVER *** [9d Td 7c 2d] [5d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
steviebucks: shows [As 8d] (a flush, Ten high)
Irish Se7en: shows [Ts Tc] (three of a kind, Tens)
steviebucks collected 2740 from pot
Irish Se7en said, "terrible"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2740 | Rake 0
Board [9d Td 7c 2d 5d]
Seat 1: steviebucks (big blind) showed [As 8d] and won (2740) with a flush, Ten high
Seat 2: Irish Se7en (button) (small blind) showed [Ts Tc] and lost with three of a kind, Tens.


What makes this worse is one of his friends is on the rail, and 5 hands after this beat, he's ragging on me. Fun times.
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Re: Chasing an open ended st8t draw.

Right play, bad beat.
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Re: Chasing an open ended st8t draw.

If I am not mistaking he has a flush and straight draw. Yes, I would but not sure about all in.
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Re: Chasing an open ended st8t draw.

An extremely loose call by him. He was not priced in to make that call. Chalk it up as a bad beat.
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Re: Chasing an open ended st8t draw.

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If I am not mistaking he has a flush and straight draw. Yes, I would but not sure about all in.
I don't think he was looking at the flsuh draw when he called the A.I. but you never know. Though he certainly hit it. To answer your Q, yes he did have a flush draw.

However, though I lost this hand, it didn't end the game and things only got better.
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Re: Chasing an open ended st8t draw.

He had to hit runner runner for his flush draw...I wouldn't put much on that draw when making an all-in call especially with just an 8 high flush. Irish could easily have had AK, flush draw or KK, AA, QQ, JJ with the same flush draw he had.
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Re: Chasing an open ended st8t draw.

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To answer your Q, yes he did have a flush draw.
He had a back-door flush draw.

I'm pretty sure that if he thought about what he was doing at all he thought he was making a move on the pot pre-flop, or preparing to make a big move on the flop, and got lucky to get a drawing hand. If he was thinking seriously about the game at all he might have figured he had up to 11 outs, 8 for the straight and 3 aces. He hit a 5%er on a stupid play. Keep playing against him and you will do well my friend.

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Re: Chasing an open ended st8t draw.

At a $5 tourney he could easily think he has 3 A's as outs too (this doesn't matter). Obv you know you played the hand better than your opponent, are you that results oriented or are you trying to accomplish something else with this thread?
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At a $5 tourney he could easily think he has 3 A's as outs too (this doesn't matter). Obv you know you played the hand better than your opponent, are you that results oriented or are you trying to accomplish something else with this thread?

Yes, I was trying to state that I'm the best HU player eva!

What I was asking, regardless of the buy in (though ppl would player looser in these low limits) is would you make the same call as he did?


If you were in my position would you have pushed after the flop?
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Re: Chasing an open ended st8t draw.

I would have pushed to take it down and push out the draws...or make it expensive/not correct for them to draw. Slow playing just gets you in trouble with that flop...
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