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Would you play?

Imagine you are at a local card room tonight playing a 4-8 game that turned into a 2-25 sp right when a drunk sat down and turned into a card rack. He quickly goes up around $300 and pretty much brakes the game. It ends up you, the drunk, and a semi-decent player who has about $40 out of his $200 in buy-ins.

The drunk catches some cards in a big hand and breaks the short stack.

You consider yourself a better player than the drunk.
You have rather even stacks.
The house will not reduce the rake to $1 per hand.

Do you continue to play heads up?

For how long?

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Re: Would you play?

is he still drinking?

do you have another buy-in in your pocket?

in the morning, make him feel loose + hungover....
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Re: Would you play?

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Imagine you are at a local card room tonight playing a 4-8 game that turned into a 2-25 sp right when a drunk sat down and turned into a card rack. He quickly goes up around $300 and pretty much brakes the game. It ends up you, the drunk, and a semi-decent player who has about $40 out of his $200 in buy-ins.

The drunk catches some cards in a big hand and breaks the short stack.

You consider yourself a better player than the drunk.
You have rather even stacks.
The house will not reduce the rake to $1 per hand.

Do you continue to play heads up?

For how long?

Discuss...
did you mean that game is 2-25 spread limit?

if the rake is really high you probably shouldn't play, because it is almost mathematically impossible to win in the long run unless he is absolutely horrible.

If he is so bad that you think he'll just give it away then you should sit and just wait for him to give his stack away. Just sit down and play smart HU poker.
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Old 09-27-2007, 10:52 AM
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is he still drinking?

do you have another buy-in in your pocket?

in the morning, make him feel loose + hungover....
He stopped drinking, but he'd had enough already.

I didn't have another buy-in, but I had $450 on the table... He had $300-$400 (hard to tell bc they were all dirty stacks, mostly ones with 5's and 25's mixed in.)
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did you mean that game is 2-25 spread limit?

if the rake is really high you probably shouldn't play, because it is almost mathematically impossible to win in the long run unless he is absolutely horrible.
Yes, that is what I meant. $2-25 spread.

Two dealers were taking turns dealing as we were only 4-6 handed the whole night. One was taking a $2 rake, the other one was taking a $3 rake. I asked for $1 but they wouldn't do it.
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Yes, that is what I meant. $2-25 spread.

Two dealers were taking turns dealing as we were only 4-6 handed the whole night. One was taking a $2 rake, the other one was taking a $3 rake. I asked for $1 but they wouldn't do it.
wtf is that all about? they just take whatever they want? and i'm confuzzed...what are the blinds?

i'd want to take his stack, but $3 is too much unless you're playing 5/10 or something (not possible given the spread).
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xt: is this at tulalip?
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wtf is that all about? they just take whatever they want? and i'm confuzzed...what are the blinds?

i'd want to take his stack, but $3 is too much unless you're playing 5/10 or something (not possible given the spread).
It is a little card room on Whidbey. I recently got them playing a $2-$25 spread game instead of the usual $3-6 or $4-8

If it is a full game we play with a $1 and a $2 blind. Bets are capped at $25. If we get to 5 or less players we do one $2 blind and generally reduce the rake to $2.

Last night one of the dealers was doing the $2 rake, the other one didn't want to get in trouble and was raking $3. When heads up was suggested I requested a $1 rake, and I was told no.
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xt: is this at tulalip?
No. I did play a $3-$25 spread game at Tulalip one night while I was waiting for a NL table to open up. That was just a $25 limit game because there were so many players waiting for a NL table sitting there.
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Re: Would you play?

unless this guy is trying to give his stack away by betting $25 every round with crap you probably can't beat that rake. Assuming most pots are going to be relatively small and there is a lot of folding (usually what happens in HU) then the house is taking a huge rake out of every small pot.

look at it this way, in 20 hands the house will have taken $50 off of the table. If you are a pretty big favorite in this matchup you are probably still can't give yourself a whole stacks worth of EV, so assuming you have $200 and you can give yourself $100 in EV then that means the house is going to cut your profits in half in 20 hands.

But as I said if he is going to blow through that $400 in 5-10 hands with whatever is dealt to him, then it is worth playing.
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