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Old 08-28-2007, 05:40 PM
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QQ Under the Gun, Did I play this wrong?

Yesterday I am at Canterbury, my local card club. I am at a 3/6 limit HE game and the action is loose as usual with almost every hand having 5-7 players seeing the flop and most every hand getting called all the way to the river. There are 3 other players there at the table that seem to be regulars, but 1 of them is playing at least 80% of all hands and the other is playing probably 50%. Only 1 guy at the table to be remotely feared.

It seems that the only way I ever make any money at this type of table (which is pretty much the rule at this place) is when I play very tight.

I am sitting there for about 2 hrs and have been limping in with the usual small and medium pairs and suited connectors and not playing much of anything else. I am getting nothing for cards when along comes QQ when I am UTG. I come out with 1 bet. I get probably 4 callers including the BB. Flop comes AQ5 rainbow. I come out firing again and everyone folds all the way around and I pick up the massive pot of 5 small bets.

This is the only hand for the entire time I was there that sticks out in my mind. Generally my cards sucked and flops did not come at all to the few hands that I did stay in. In this session I lost some, but If that one hand had been different it might have changed the entire outcome.

Did I play this wrong?

Thoughts anyone?

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Re: QQ Under the Gun, Did I play this wrong?

raise preflop. i play tight in limit too, and find that i get MORE action postflop when i raise than when i limp.

weird, huh?
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Re: QQ Under the Gun, Did I play this wrong?

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raise preflop. i play tight in limit too, and find that i get MORE action postflop when i raise than when i limp.

weird, huh?
This is excatly why I dont have the patients to play limit.

I dont know if you played the incorrectly or not. I would say you did fine and the players were scared off with the board cards. Not for sure...
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Re: QQ Under the Gun, Did I play this wrong?

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raise preflop. i play tight in limit too, and find that i get MORE action postflop when i raise than when i limp.

weird, huh?
I agree with jojo here. My experience is mostly in limit for cash games as thats pretty much all you have here. I would raise here 100% of the time at a loose table. If anything it will build a pot that people won't want to give up. Which is good when you hit and not so good when you miss.
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Re: QQ Under the Gun, Did I play this wrong?

Not much you can do if no one has anything. It doesn't mean much when you flop a big hand if no one else hits.
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Re: QQ Under the Gun, Did I play this wrong?

I raise QQ 100% UTG. Once in awhile I might slow play AA UTG but never QQ.
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Re: QQ Under the Gun, Did I play this wrong?

I not sure if you play good or bad it really depend. If you think about it no one hits the flop AQ5 rainbow. If you have a player who hit an A or 5 you know they will call you. Beside it is too expend to see the turn if they don't have flush draw or straight draw.

IMO, you did fine. Someone uses to tell me it is better to win early then to loose it all on river.
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Re: QQ Under the Gun, Did I play this wrong?

I agree with the others, always raise QQ in EP in a Limit game, especially at a loose table.

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It seems that the only way I ever make any money at this type of table (which is pretty much the rule at this place) is when I play very tight.
While playing very tight will win you money at a table like this, optimal play would be to play looser (though still much tighter than them), and take advantage of your postflop skill advantage. Have you read Small Stakes Hold'em by Miller? It's whole purpose is to teach you to not only beat but crush games just like the one you describe.
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I raise preflop and don't think too hard about it.
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Re: QQ Under the Gun, Did I play this wrong?

Raise preflop and try to look desperate, like you're sick of bad cards so you've got some mediocre cards and you're going "screw it I'm going to raise with these cards and see what happens". I have not perfected how to look desperate, but maybe you have.

Sounds like you got unlucky and nobody had an ace.
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