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Old 07-16-2007, 11:52 AM
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Heads up play: How to play this?

I'm heads up with a guy that is known to go all-in with anything. However, it's not like he does it all the time.

Blinds are currently 200/400. I recently doubled up by going all-in in the dark with 650 and after the board was dealt I turned over AA to make trips with an A on the board. We've played a few folding hands since and I've lost 200. So my opponent has 1700 in chips and I have 1500. I have the button. He posts BB 400 and I post SB 200. We are first to act. Blinds increase to 300/600 in three minutes. We are dealt:



How do you play this?

PS: Does it make any difference to you to know that 2s were *uncannily* winning all night? 22 hitting trips on the flop, turn and river. Even some hands with running 2s.
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Old 07-16-2007, 12:03 PM
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Re: Heads up play: How to play this?

Really comes down to the J2 being a below average hand. Will your oponent fold the middling hands that have you beat? At this stage it's a coin flip. If you're oponent is capable of a fold....all in. If he calls you're still not gonna be in a terrible state unless he turns over a big pair or a J.
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Old 07-16-2007, 12:10 PM
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Re: Heads up play: How to play this?

if I was playing the J-2 suited, I'd be really tempted to fold hoping for a K or A on one of the next two hands, but then I would bust a couple hands later with 4-9o, because it just doesn't work that way. Then for the next two hours, I'd regret not shoving in with suited paint. As ugly as your hand is, it's probably shoving time.
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Old 07-16-2007, 12:37 PM
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Re: Heads up play: How to play this?

Given the blinds and the stacks, you're in bad shape. But so is he! Gonna be all luck now.

J-2s is just enough of a hand to push with IMO. But I would call (limp) here and hope to see a flop. If he raises you all in, then call.
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Re: Heads up play: How to play this?

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Given the blinds and the stacks, you're in bad shape. But so is he! Gonna be all luck now.

J-2s is just enough of a hand to push with IMO. But I would call (limp) here and hope to see a flop. If he raises you all in, then call.
Tom - if that's the way you are gonna play it - then just push. Why call and then call his all-in?

I fold this. The 2 is a killer (despite them being HOT that night).
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Tom - if that's the way you are gonna play it - then just push. Why call and then call his all-in?

I fold this. The 2 is a killer (despite them being HOT that night).
Meh, it's only 2% strategy left at this point . . . but that's my sickly 2%. (#1) Trap -- see if he will go all in with a bad hand and then call. Weak, I know. (#2) But if he just calls, we can see a flop and still fold or whatever after seeing 3 more cards.

Yeah, the 2 is a killer, I'd prefer even a 4-5-6 here. But J-2s in my calculations is at the bottom end of the push range.

It's all gonna be luck anyway. With these blinds, both guys should be all-in every hand.
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Re: Heads up play: How to play this?

So, Tomb, you would call, hoping to "trap" with J2? This guy could have anything but any Kx is going to be all-in for him. Most likely Qx too. Is there anyway you call here and do not call an all-in?
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Re: Heads up play: How to play this?

I think I'd rather have 4,6 suited than J2. Fold preflop, next hand if you have Q or better or any two suited connectors push away....or for that matter any two cards bigger than a 7.
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Re: Heads up play: How to play this?

if he's likely to raise if you limp, then you should push.
if he's likely to let you see a flop if you limp, then you should do so.

you can't pass any hands from your small blind at these stakes.

you should most definitely not limp and then call a raise. not a strong enough hand.
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Re: Heads up play: How to play this?

Not thrilled with the hand, but at this point its less about the hands.

25% of the chips are on the table before any cards have been dealt.

Between this SB & your next BB, you've put in almost half your chips.

At this point, the psychology and texture of the whole match up this point is as much a factor as anything. Its hard to tell you what to do without knowing that.

Yet, things are desperate enough for both of you that I think you push AI and put the decision on him...because I think he's likely to do the same thing to you next hand when he's in the SB (did you mean he pushes AI with anything or will call an AI with anything...has he done that all match, or recently as the blinds have gone up...how's he responded to your pushes, etc.).

Sooner or later, one of the hands is going to be called by both of you preflop (I can't imagine much flop play here) and, no matter what cards you each hold, anything can happen.
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