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View Poll Results: Are you lucky if at least 25% of your hands played:
You get good starting cards (hole cards)? 15 36.59%
You win at least half of the races you're involved in? 10 24.39%
You connect on the flop at least 30% of time you're in a hand? 13 31.71%
Your big hands are never second best hands? 16 39.02%
You avoid bad beats? 20 48.78%
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Old 06-25-2007, 05:58 PM
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What does "luck" mean (to you)?

This isn't really strategy, but I didn't know where else to post this.

Which of these circumstances would you categorize as lucky when they happen to you?

Do you consider yourself unlucky if they don't happen to you?

How many of these factors need to happen in a session for you to feel like you had a lucky night?

Which of these factors need to work against you, and for how long, to consider that you are "running bad"?

EDIT: I meant to have the "25%" apply only to the first option.

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Old 06-25-2007, 06:22 PM
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Re: What does "luck" mean (to you)?

It's definitely an all of the above for me so I'm glad that you allowed multiple choices.

I only consider myself unlucky when it's an 'all of the above' that is not happening for me. For the record, I seem to get horrible hole cards regularly and for me that is the norm. I consider myself lucky when I can avoid a losing session while playing bad or mediocre starting hands.
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Old 06-25-2007, 06:44 PM
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Re: What does "luck" mean (to you)?

what is this luck?

what happens in a session doesn't matter. i plan to play a few million hands in my life and i know things'll even out. in the meantime, i think taking the idea of luck too seriously can lead to losing more than is necessary when things run bad.

You get good starting cards (hole cards)? you usually don't. it's normal to be card dead for 100s of hands.
You win at least half of the races you're involved in? come on...
You connect on the flop at least 30% of time you're in a hand? pretty much.
Your big hands are never second best hands? sometimes they are, and that sucks.
You avoid bad beats? not possible.

i'm not being macho or show-offy. i just believe that i'm better off knowing that worrying about luck is bad for my game.
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Re: What does "luck" mean (to you)?

I'm always lucky!

For me, I suppose luck is when you run into a statistically unlikely single event, whether good or bad. KK "running into" AA - yeah, that's bad luck. Getting a premium pp three times in a row - yeah that's good luck. However, it happens both ways and I don't generally worry about it either way. It's just another word for "improbable". Depending on who you are, it may or may not have some emotional or superstitious connotation.

I will say this: people enjoy themselves a lot more when things are "lucky". They like when they get lucky. They prefer to think you got lucky (as opposed to just being better). I often find it expedient in the casino, and against certain home game players, (especially men) to let them think that I am simply lucky. Keeps everyone smiling, which I prefer for several reasons. So, against certain people, I will perpetuate the myth of my belief in luck.
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Re: What does "luck" mean (to you)?

I guess I'd consider hitting lots of hands and winning them is lucky. Like jojo said, luck is a description of a small sample size. There's nothing I can do to make myself lucky or unlucky, so I don't really think about it, although I do subscribe to Doyle's notion of riding a rush. A part of rushes/running over a table has to do with opponents, etc. so not totally luck.
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Re: What does "luck" mean (to you)?

Luck to me is walking out of the casino with more money than what I started with, even if its a buck
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Re: What does "luck" mean (to you)?

Luck is when I misread a player's hand and push at the wrong time only to hit a 2 outer on the turn or river and win.

Being damn lucky is flopping the nutz and getting bet into.
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Re: What does "luck" mean (to you)?

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Luck is when I misread a player's hand and push at the wrong time only to hit a 2 outer on the turn or river and win.

Being damn lucky is flopping the nutz and getting bet into.
I tend to agree with this definition. When I misplay a hand, make a bad call, push, raise, etc against a better hand and hit something like a 4 outer, runner/runner, etc to win the hand. Basically, if I win when I shouldn't, then I'm lucky.

All in all, I don't think about it too often in cards.
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Re: What does "luck" mean (to you)?

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i'm not being macho or show-offy. i just believe that i'm better off knowing that worrying about luck is bad for my game.

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To me luck is what the uninformed call the seemingly outer edged of statistical probability. Many people seem to confuse this with "freakin riverstars!~!~```" and "I can't believe you jsut made that donk move and suckede out on meh!!!!1111".
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