[w16227]

EDIT - to clarify an important point - this was in HORSE, LIMIT HoldEm - 8 Handed

OK - one of the puzzlers from my WSOP trip. For the most part - I was able to see my mistakes right away, but this one to me was somewhat difficult to play because of my shortstack status.

Blinds - 500/1000, 1K-2K limits

I am on the shortstack on the button with 2000 left. Table has been playing fairly tight - and no real overaggresisve players.

The button and table layout has allowed for me to quick peek check my cards early at times - did it this hand. Looked down at 78 diamonds.

UTG Raise (Cindy Violette) and folded to me. Eugene Tood (bro) in the BB. Neither have been out of line playing junk cards, so I am pretty sure that I have two live unders. Call - allin or fold......

I was really torn with what to do - I had little chips left, and needed to make some kind of stand before the blinds hit me again. I am still not sure that I made the right play and would like to hear comments.

[Poboy]

call.

[PhilTheThrill14]

The time has come. Hopefully you get the BB to come in and you triple up....:0)

[jojobinks]

Originally Posted by Poboy

call.

for half his stack?

i think no. i'm sure your cards are live, but you haven't said there were antes. why race with 78s against what could be two opponents? you have several hands to pick up a better hand to race with. 78s not so good hot/cold.

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 34.011% 33.72% 00.29% 300214828 2620108.00 { 87s }
Hand 1: 65.989% 65.69% 00.29% 584943036 2620108.00 { 77+, ATs+, KJs+, QJs, ATo+, KQo }

[schimmel]

gamble.. and reraise all in you are waisting time sitting there with 1 BB left

[littlebu]

It's for all his chips. W says stack = 2000

blinds = 500/1000

Utg raise = 2000

I'd call and hope the BB comes along

Originally Posted by jojobinks

for half his stack?

i think no. i'm sure your cards are live, but you haven't said there were antes. why race with 78s against what could be two opponents? you have several hands to pick up a better hand to race with. 78s not so good hot/cold.

[PhilTheThrill14]

Originally Posted by littlebu

It's for all his chips. W says stack = 2000

blinds = 500/1000

Utg raise = 2000

I'd call and hope the BB comes along

Exactly - any hand he plays is for all his stack. He's has zero fold equity so waiting for first in vig is useless. Hope for two live cards and yell yiiipppppppeeeeee.

[w16227]

Originally Posted by jojobinks

for half his stack?

i think no. i'm sure your cards are live, but you haven't said there were antes. why race with 78s against what could be two opponents? you have several hands to pick up a better hand to race with. 78s not so good hot/cold.

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 34.011% 33.72% 00.29% 300214828 2620108.00 { 87s }
Hand 1: 65.989% 65.69% 00.29% 584943036 2620108.00 { 77+, ATs+, KJs+, QJs, ATo+, KQo }

no antes - limit poker and the call was for an allin

limit gives you a bit more time to be paitent than NL, but not much.

Initially, I was planning on raising into the blinds if it folded around.

[Hopin2Steal]

Maybe the biggest factor that would play into my decision here is: how far were you from the money? If you're not within 5 spots of making the money, I'd likely say go all-in. Why not, since you'll need to double-up again to make the money, most likely. Within 5, I'd say fold. You still have 6 hands(?) before posting a BB again.

[xtwalker]

For me, the only way I could see calling this would be if there were multiple callers ahead of you, giving you a chance to raise your stack 4x or 5x... and then only if you aren't right on or near the bubble. Calling a early possition raise for all of your stack with 78 is risking your tourney on a bad hand for not nearly enough possible reward.

I have to admit though, I hate playing short stacks and when I get them I look for huge gambles with extreme pot odds. Again, to me, this has too much gamble for the pot odds you are getting.

XT