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06-02-2007, 03:21 PM
|  | Final Table | | Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: WA
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Chips: 488 | | | help with a hand last night... I was playing 3-5 NL in a B&M last night, and had been there for about 6-8 hours with largly the same group of players. UTG is a solid player who is very capable of making moves with little to no hand, he also already had his chips racked up to cash out after his button. No read on UTG+1 as he hadn't shown down a hand for the 45 minutes he had played. I Was up about $500 and playing $801 at the start of the following hand.
UTG ($1000) limps in for $5
UTG +1 ($300) limps in for $5
3 more players limp in for $5
All night long when there were several limpers and I found good cards in my hand in late possition or the blinds, I would raise to ~$30 and take it down.
Me on button, decide to stab at the dead money and raise to $30 w A9os
UTG and UTG+1 call, 1 more player calls.
roughly $140 in the pot
Flop AA3 rainbow.
UTG bets $20... I immediately think small ace and he is feeling around with that crazy bet.
UTG+1 raises to $70... first thought is maybe he flopped 3's full.
a couple folds, then I call the $70 expecting UTG to call and get a look at the turn.
UTG raises another $200
UTG+1 immediately folds.
Me: ???? | 
06-02-2007, 03:26 PM
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Chips: 4,387 | | | Re: help with a hand last night... What's important here is what UTG thinks of utg+1 and you. If he's making a move here he has to think both of you are capable of folding an Ace here. Reraising a raiser and a caller on a board like this to me means he has a hand that beats yours. I'd say AJs or AQ/AK, or 33, maybe A3s. | 
06-02-2007, 05:04 PM
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Chips: 2,456 | | | Re: help with a hand last night... Tough situation. UTG has re-raised after the preflop raiser has cold called. The fact that he has his chips racked to leave lends me to believe he's not going to risk a bunch of them light if he's not going to stick around to re-earn them if caught. Seems more like he limped a bigger Ace (or 33) not wanting to put much in preflop.
I don't know if I'd do it, but I think it's a fold.
EDIT: hate the preflop raise BTW
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06-02-2007, 06:18 PM
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Chips: 47 | | | Re: help with a hand last night... If he had a decent ace he'd raise preflop, if he had 3,3 he might limp. I'd think it more likely he raises with 3,3 trying to take one down quick before leaving.
I'd think you have him beat, probably holding A,4-A,7...I think if he was holding the nuts at this point he'd worry about pushing out 2 players, he knows at least one of you does not have the ace, and the likelihood of the other is slim.
Weak ace. Call. Now you can tell me he had AJos and make me wrong.
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06-02-2007, 07:22 PM
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Chips: 488 | | | Re: help with a hand last night... 99%,
That is exactly the thought process I went through... I don't think I mentioned it, but I know he likes to limp with a very wide range of hands, but I have always seen him raise PF with decent cards. I thought he had a weak ace, and he wasn't acting like he flopped the boat. Figured I was ahead at that point... it felt like a defensive bet to push us out, and I reasoned that if I called I had to call off the rest of my stack on the turn, bc this guy would be with any card that hit.
So.... I re-raised all in. I thought he would fold anything except for the A-3 or 3-3, and if he had it, oh well. I was wrong! He called off all but a tiny portion of his stack w A-5os.
Due to WA gambling laws I got 1 $2 chip back from my "all-in" bet. We had both exposed our cards and the turn came a 6. I stopped the dealer and announced I was betting $2 on the turn, giving OTG the greatest pot ods in the history of poker.
K on the river and I took down a little over $1700 in that hand.
It was the only thing anyone talked about for the next hour, and everyone was saying I was crazy making that play because they thought I had to be behind on it. I honestly never thought I was a dog to him, and the player I was worried about folded.
Just needed to make sure someone else would reason it the same way and that I didn't just luck into that pot.
Thanks,
XT | 
06-02-2007, 07:51 PM
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Chips: 4,387 | | | Re: help with a hand last night... Quote:
Originally Posted by xtwalker
Due to WA gambling laws I got 1 $2 chip back from my "all-in" bet. We had both exposed our cards and the turn came a 6. I stopped the dealer and announced I was betting $2 on the turn, giving OTG the greatest pot odds in the history of poker. | Nice read, and nice pot!
Could you explain this WA law thing? You can't go all in on the flop but you can on the turn? | 
06-02-2007, 07:55 PM
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Chips: 488 | | | Re: help with a hand last night... $500 max bet. I had $771 left after the flop. I called the $70 leaving me $701. He raised me another $200, so my raise was $501, $1 too many.
I didn't have any $1 chips so the dealer tossed back one of my $2 chips for my change. So of course, I bet it on the turn. | 
06-02-2007, 08:02 PM
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Chips: 794 | | | Re: help with a hand last night... Nice Pot, incredible gamble, so what chip set are you planning on buying?   | 
06-02-2007, 08:05 PM
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Chips: 2,456 | | | Re: help with a hand last night... So what's your best friend's name?
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06-02-2007, 08:07 PM
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Chips: 488 | | | Re: help with a hand last night... Quote:
Originally Posted by Irish Se7en Nice Pot, incredible gamble, so what chip set are you planning on buying?   | Custom ceramics or custom PI clays... depends on which I like better of the prototypes Joe is doing for me.
But that was paid for by my winnings on Monday... not sure about last nights winnings yet. At a minimum they are paying for tonights trip back out there. | | Thread Tools | Search this Thread | | | | | Display Modes | Linear Mode |
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