[Devilboy]

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: FlopTurnRiver)

SB ($120.45)
BB ($52.55)
UTG ($50)
Hero ($50.80)
CO ($20)
Button ($25.75)
Preflop: Hero is MP with J, J.
1 fold, Hero raises to $1.75, 2 folds, SB calls $1.50, BB calls $1.25.
Flop: ($5.25) 3, 6, 7 (3 players)
SB bets $5, BB folds, Hero raises to $14, SB calls $9.
Turn: ($33.25) Q (2 players)
SB checks, Hero ???

[Harlequin011]

I'd bet $20 and shut down on the river unless A jack falls. Even if a jack does fall I'm not sure if I bet out.

Do you have any feel for his betting patterns?

[PhilTheThrill14]

I'm checking. he's called your previous 2 raises - he is trying to tell you he has something. How much? Who knows. Let's take free one off here and re-assess on the river - let's not build a big pot when the only way I see this guy calling a raise here is fi he has you beat - which would mean 2pair or trips.

Then again, I am not a very good on-line cash player.....

[FL70]

Without any info on the player...

The SB called a 3x BB raise out of position getting less than 2-to-1 odss with one player left to act. If he's a maniac, you can't tell squat. If he's a fairly normal player he's got something - medium to small pair, suited connectors, or A-rag suited.

Given his bet/call on the flop and check on the turn when the Q appears I'd say he's most likely to have something like 88, 89s or 78s. He bets out on the Flop to see if you initially raised with AK/AQ and missed. However you raise, so he's checking on the Turn unless he hits it. You likely have the best hand.

Checking is obviously not an option. You have ~$35 left. If you put in $20 and he pushes, can you let it go? If so then $20 should be enough to give him improper odds. If you don't think you'll lay it down for another $15, then just put it all in now.

[PhilTheThrill14]

33.25+20.00+35.00 = 88.25. (Scenario of you betting $20 and him putting you all-in....).

You can't fold getting that price. So I still don't want to bet out $20 here. It puts me in a situation of playing for all my chips against a hand that has a good chance of having me beat (if he puts me all-in). Isn't this almost a case of the only hands he will call you with (if you bet $20) are one's that beat you?

I try to keep this one small.....

[Devilboy]

I put him on a pair and a draw or the nut straight draw. He looked like a strong agressive fairly loose player. Thinking back now the only hand that really makes sense to me is 89s. He knew I was tight and figured with a 7 high flop I could not call a significant bet. When I raised he still had 8 outs to the nuts and could have figured the odds were good enough. I didn't think he'd bet out that big with the nuts on that flop.

Or what am I missing?

[Harlequin011]

Originally Posted by PhilTheThrill14

33.25+20.00+35.00 = 88.25. (Scenario of you betting $20 and him putting you all-in....).

You can't fold getting that price. So I still don't want to bet out $20 here. It puts me in a situation of playing for all my chips against a hand that has a good chance of having me beat (if he puts me all-in). Isn't this almost a case of the only hands he will call you with (if you bet $20) are one's that beat you?

I try to keep this one small.....

I thought of that immediately after I posted. Much like when I'm playing. Right after I make the bet.

[Devilboy]

I think this is a case where you have only 2 choices (check or push) and they are both bad. Pushing will definitely force him to play correctly (calling only with hands that has me beat) but I also cannot give him a free card that could beat me. Do you think giving him a free card is better? What do you do on the river if he bets?

[PhilTheThrill14]

One is bad - but you lose no more money. The other is bad and you lose it all. Keep it small and hope he checks again.

How much he bets on the river is the deciding factor.....

[BigWoody]

Check the turn.

Flat call most river bets.