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Old 05-07-2007, 06:15 PM
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PokerStars Game #9799437215: Tournament #49729067, $3.00+$0.40 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2007/05/07 - 19:12:47 (ET)
Table '49729067 1' 10-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: xxchuckyxx (940 in chips)
Seat 2: BrettButter (1480 in chips)
Seat 3: carddecker (1530 in chips)
Seat 5: tuibus (2117 in chips)
Seat 7: mets6986 (1470 in chips)
Seat 8: MrPink88 (1450 in chips)
Seat 9: titusfuerte (4985 in chips)
Seat 10: trout39 (1028 in chips)
trout39: posts small blind 15
xxchuckyxx: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to BrettButter [Kc Ac]
BrettButter: raises 60 to 90
carddecker: folds
tuibus: folds
mets6986: folds
MrPink88: folds
titusfuerte: folds
trout39: calls 75
xxchuckyxx: folds
*** FLOP *** [2c Qc Tc]
trout39: checks
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Old 05-07-2007, 07:12 PM
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Re: Slowplay or bet out?

Depends (on how much you've been c-betting, on your opp, etc.), but I think either way you probably aren't making much money on this hand. If it were me, a check would be more suspicious than a bet, so I'd bet.
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Old 05-07-2007, 07:18 PM
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Re: Slowplay or bet out?

I've been very tight. This is the first pot I've willingly entered, aside from trying to limp from the SB then folding to a raise by the BB on the first hand. Trout has played a lot of hands.

The table is a little LAG, like most of the tournaments at this limit.
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Re: Slowplay or bet out?

You've got the deck crippled here.

Not much anyone else can have against you. Get a pot going anyway you can. Be happy if you can get anything out of him.
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Re: Slowplay or bet out?

weak lead here, or bet 1/2 the pot on the turn.

don't expect action, though.

against better players (or known sheriffs), i wouldn't be afraid to bet 1/2 the pot now. but against small limit chumps, go obvious.
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Re: Slowplay or bet out?

If you show aggression preflop, show it on the flop. You might get surprised by the play of your opponent!
No need to push on that flop, of course. If he calls your bet on the flop, a classic "weak" play is to bet the same on the turn. You'll get a lot of checkraises.

You'll get more calls early. There are much better drawing odds on the flop, even for hands as weak as middle pair with a gutshot. Those are the guys you want to string along- the ones drawing dead. They will call!

If you wait until the turn or river to bet out, nobody will have any drawing (dead) odds.

Also: No matter what you flop, it's not the nuts. (OK, straight flushes excepted) Might as well make them pay to draw to that boat!
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Re: Slowplay or bet out?

I think it turned out okay. I was expecting a fold on the turn.

BrettButter: checks
*** TURN *** [2c Qc Tc] [6h]
trout39: bets 30
BrettButter: raises 70 to 100
trout39: calls 70
*** RIVER *** [2c Qc Tc 6h] [9h]
trout39: checks
BrettButter: bets 350
trout39: calls 350
*** SHOW DOWN ***
BrettButter: shows [Kc Ac] (a flush, Ace high)
trout39: shows [Qh 7c] (a pair of Queens)
BrettButter collected 1110 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1110 | Rake 0
Board [2c Qc Tc 6h 9h]
Seat 1: xxchuckyxx (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: BrettButter showed [Kc Ac] and won (1110) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 3: carddecker folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: tuibus folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: mets6986 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: MrPink88 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: titusfuerte (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 10: trout39 (small blind) showed [Qh 7c] and lost with a pair of Queens
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Re: Slowplay or bet out?

Uggh. You flopped the world -- you pretty much have to check it. I'd start pumping the pot on the turn and hope he has 1 club.
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Re: Slowplay or bet out?

You have to lead out on that flop. The best you can hope for is that he has top pair and thinks you're drawing the the nut flush. I keep betting 3/4 pot and just call if he reraises me. A club on the turn or river will kill your action.
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